Posted on 05/19/2006 11:09:07 AM PDT by Jotmo
Well, Mr. Chick is a known "idiot".... HOWEVER, I feel that of all the words on the cartoon, the ones about the Orthodox Christians, Roman Catholics and Jews are so horrible that I wonder if the cartoon has ANY place on FR at all.... unless a VAST explanatory comment is made in regard to its placement on this forum.
You've got understand that the Roman Catholic Ustashi slaughtered hundreds of thousands of my people, the Serbs, during WWII and the Church protected the killers by moving them through the Ratlines out of Europe into South America. One of them, Andrija Artukovic, lived here in the US until the 1980's and the Church provided his financial defense.
During the recent break-up of Yugoslavia, it was the Vatican's premature recognition of Croatia that lit the fuse for that war, too.
I will admit that I am not in the Vatican fan club, although I respect the right of Roman Catholics to worship.
Interesting. I typically use that cartoon when a thread in the "religion" forum turns tinfoil-hat vicious against Catholicism. First time I've used it in the "news" forum. I'll have to keep in mind that I should include a disclaimer in future threads.
Yes, I agree it's repugnant. But that's it's point...
--come to think of it, I really don't want to get into another argument with a Serb Nationalist--
Is that like a Croatian or Bosnian or Albanian( islamic) nationalist??
"Serb Nationalist' -- I suppose that is the modern day version of "heretic"?
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?ModuleId=10005449
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(history)
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/063.shtml
Gone there before...
If you take any position on the Balkans other than being on the Serbs' side, you are wrong (and evil)
If you take the Serb's position on the issue, but without sufficient pure, unadulterated hate for all other parties than the Serbs, you are evil (and wrong)
Therefore, I try to avoid going there....
Understand. Been there. Feel the same way about the Roman Catholic Church.
I tend to agree with you there. Even if (as is apparently the case) the poster meant to hold the cartoon up to ridicule, it's so offensive, what's the point of posting it at all?
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A form of satire...
One can point out the ridiculous by being ridiculous.
One can also point out the offensive by using the offensive.
But his most important contribution was a study of his own family --- the four above-mentioned offspring, and their descendants and other relatives --- which resulted in the General Theory of Relativity. His unique and brilliant work was, of course, suppressed by his arch-rival, the red-eyed Jewish albino Albert Einstein. All of this is recorded in the alluring yet cryptic verses of his sister, Gertrude Stein, and their incestuously-conceived son, Frank N. Stein.
Who was also, of course, Jewish, All Steins are Jewish except for Beer Steins and Lichtenstein.
This is all true. You can look it up. You probably never heard of it, though, because They Don't Want You To Know.
OK. Can I be paid by the word?
OK. Saw the film, yesterday.
As entertainment --it wasn't nearly as bad as its reviewers said, nor was it as good as its intial hype. I'd give it a "B" -- some decent action and thrills, but Tom Hanks, in the lead role, looked like he was in a fog through most of it.
I didn't read the book -- although I had read Holy Blood, Holy Grail, upon which the Da Vinci Code was based -- but the people I was with at the film, had read the DVC book and said it followed the book pretty closely.
The Whole punchline of (the book and) the movie was that here was the last of "the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdeline", in the form of one female character -- which was to me at least (as entertainment) was a big "who cares?" as "a climax".
The whole concept of the book and the movie overlooks one enormous glaring fact -- The Orthodox Church (which has also been around since the beginning) -- who would have to simultaneously and independently be keeping the same "secret" for all of these years -- and the Orthodox Church is never mentioned in the book or the movie.
Do I think that the DVC is theologicaly "dangerous" -- only for those with little or no Faith to begin with. Because you could make a better "case" for "Jesus Christ having schizophrenia" (He heard voices, didn't he?) than you can for this off-the-wall scenario.
As for the Roman Catholic Church "having conspiracies worth killing for" -- other than than historically documented ones, maybe, probably --but this isn't one of them.
First it was the Virgin Mary, "not being a Virgin at all", then it is "Jesus Christ, not The Son of God, but just a man" -- I suppose that the "logical progression" of this baseless theological tangent had to eventually become "Jesus Christ got married and had kids". Ultimately following this tangent takes you on a train that goes spiritually nowhere, except to leave you sucking your thumb in fetal position in a corner. Thanks, but no thanks -- not a trip for me!
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