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Sun puts its weight behind Ubuntu Linux
IT WEEK ^ | 17 May 2006 | Tom Sanders

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:19:50 PM PDT by AllmanBrosFan

Sun Microsystems plans to offer support for the Ubuntu server Linux distribution on its T1 server line, the company said at the JavaOne industry conference in San Francisco.

"We will be aggressively supporting the fork that Ubuntu has been doing," Sun chief executive Jonathan Schwartz said at the conference. "The ideals of that community are relatively familiar to us."

The Ubuntu Linux distribution is based on Debian. The operating system currently provides only a desktop version that has a strong following among software developers. A first server system is scheduled for release on 1 June.

The distribution is sponsored by Canonical, which offers commercial support for the application.

Sun's T1 servers use the company's Niagara multi-core processor. The systems were launched last December and are currently certified for Solaris only.

Sun's support is a major win for Ubuntu as it aspires to become one of the world's main Linux distributions.

Its creators seek to differentiate the offering from Red Hat and SuSE by providing support as an optional service for a limited number of systems, rather than bundling support automatically with the software.

Sun hopes that supporting the operating system will expose its hardware to a new group of users. A company spokesman denied that the support was aimed as a move against Red Hat and SuSE.


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KEYWORDS: bestofgoldeneagle; linux; sunmicrosystems; threadjester; ubuntu; worstofiggle
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To: N3WBI3
co sponcers

ROFL! Their supposed "support" is problably nothing more than keeping those old pages online at redhat.com.

161 posted on 05/19/2006 12:01:50 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: N3WBI3

Wasn't RH9 ages ago? 8^)


162 posted on 05/19/2006 12:18:06 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: Golden Eagle

The only person who's been caught red-handed with BS is you, sir.


163 posted on 05/19/2006 12:19:56 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout

LOL, you still haven't admitted Dell used to ship Linux on their home desktops, then stopped since they didn't sell. Nor have you mumbled anything since I showed American made Solaris having equal or better performance and features, yet you still choose the foreign product. The record is clear, to anyone outside your cult.


164 posted on 05/19/2006 12:24:49 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Somehow, I think their support goes beyond not deleting old webpages. There's a community effort available, and as other posters have mentioned, RH does support these community efforts.

However, because RH9 and earlier are ancient versions--they're not going to continually produce patches, software, updates, etc. for years on end like MS does.

Also, it's interesting, because Fedora is often the testing and smoothing-over ground for technologies that RH is considering including in its Enterprise editions.


165 posted on 05/19/2006 12:27:36 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: Golden Eagle

Unfortunately, I've had more important things to take care of this morning...

But you were busted by several other posters for posting absolute bunk on Solaris v. Linux.

Finally, what part of Naked Computer Program do you not understand...


166 posted on 05/19/2006 12:29:25 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
I think their support goes beyond not deleting old webpages.

But of course you have no proof, nor do you hardly ever.

because RH9 and earlier are ancient versions

LOL, RH9 came out in 2003. MS still provides security patches for Win2000, even though newbi3 may try to tell you they don't.

167 posted on 05/19/2006 12:32:11 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

There's a support community sponsored by RH. From what I can tell, they no longer provide direct support, but it's available from other users and the Internet...

Not to mention there are five versions of Fedora that came out after RH9...


168 posted on 05/19/2006 12:45:13 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
they no longer provide direct support, but it's available from other users and the Internet...

Like I already said, countless times, that's not the vendor, its some mysterious "community" that probably includes hackers from Russia and China and is not a reliable source. Just because you're foolish enough to trust it doesn't mean others should. Probably why the turtle didn't even load the crap from there, and went 3 years without applying anything.

169 posted on 05/19/2006 12:48:17 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

The vendor supports them. That's what you're missing.

Consider Slackware. To my knowledge, Pat Volkerding & Slackware do not provide direct support for Slackware 8 and 9. I don't think you can email or call support and request help for Slack 8...

However, there are countless books, forums, community groups that are sanctioned and supported by Slackware where you can find such help.

RH and most of the other Linux vendors work in more or less the same way supportwise.


170 posted on 05/19/2006 12:52:20 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout

I'm not missing anything, including watching you talk in circles once again. What you're obviously missing is any understanding of the industry, or the reasons why Red Hat dropped support for RH9, being their lack of income on a product they were supporting, which obviously hasn't changed.

Get back to class, get your degree, go into the real world and work on something for a few years, then come back here and post on something you might know something about. Till then you're just wasting everyone's time with your wild uninformed guesses stated as fact.


171 posted on 05/19/2006 1:06:59 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Er, no.

Are you really this ignorant?

For you, Linux = DNC = Chinese Communism. And that's all you care to know...


172 posted on 05/19/2006 1:10:09 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout

No, I simply point out the DNC and PRC have both standardized on Linux, along with most every other leftist/communist entity on earth. The only one who's ignorant are those that attempt to deny it.


173 posted on 05/19/2006 1:13:11 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

You're the

How can we tell? You always link to Democratic and Chinese sites, and you quote Stallman far more often than any of us combined.


174 posted on 05/19/2006 1:22:38 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: Golden Eagle
ROFL! Their supposed "support" is problably nothing more than keeping those old pages online at redhat.com.

And you know this how?

175 posted on 05/19/2006 1:26:39 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Golden Eagle
LMAO that would be like me sitting here in a couple of years saying how awesome my NT 4 server was, haven't even had to reboot it in 3 years LOL!

That is because NT4 knew how to reboot itself at least once a week, sometimes even when not under load. There was nothing to patch because we were not running any processes except for SSH and the database engine and kernel was rock solid for us (obviously).

What is it that you think we should have been patching that we weren't patching? Be specific please.

176 posted on 05/19/2006 2:18:11 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Golden Eagle
Nor have you mumbled anything since I showed American made Solaris having equal or better performance and features, yet you still choose the foreign product.

Solaris also has a relatively crappy userland and poor hardware support including a lack of a lot of very high-end networking hardware, so there are also compelling reasons to not use Solaris and to use Linux. Which one is best depends very much on what you want to do and other IT considerations (like if you have decent Solaris admins).

177 posted on 05/19/2006 2:25:17 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: tortoise

No, the undeniable point is, you don't run systems online after vulnerabilities are found without applying patches from the vendor. Just because you were still online doesn't mean you weren't hacked LMAO. And while I wouldn't dare run any of this software that came from "fedora legacy community" (who knows where), this is probably a halfway decent list of the vulnerabilities on your server over the last couple of years that went unpatched. I'd get canned if I pulled some BS like that. Yet you wonder what's wrong LOL!

2004-06-02 FLSA:1620 Updated cvs resolves security vulnerabilities.
2004-07-19 FLSA:1553 Updated sysklogd resolves memory buffer bug.
2004-07-19 FLSA:1553 Updated sysklogd resolves memory buffer bug reissue to fix url .
2004-07-19 FLSA:1734 Updated mailman resolves security vulnerability.
2004-07-19 FLSA:1734 Updated mailman resolves security vulnerability reissue to fix url .
2004-09-29 FLSA:1468 Updated tcpdump packages that fix multiple security vulnerabilities.
2004-09-29 FLSA:1552 Updated cadaver packages that fix security vulnerabilities.
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2004-09-30 FLSA:1840 Updated Ethereal packages fix security issues.
2004-09-30 FLSA:2003 Updated rsync package fixes security issues.
2004-10-02 FLSA:1733 Updated squirrelmail resolves security vulnerabilities.
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2004-10-09 FLSA:2068 Updated httpd packages fix security issues.
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2004-10-13 FLSA:2102 Updated samba packages fix security vulnerability.
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2004-10-16 FLSA:2072 Updated CUPS packages fix security vulnerability.
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2005-02-20 FLSA:1944 GNOME VFS updates address extfs vulnerability.
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2005-02-20 FLSA:2058 Updated cdrtools packages fix a security issue.
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2005-03-02 FLSA:2127 Updated CUPS packages fix security vulnerabilities.
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2005-07-15 FLSA:152891 Updated cpio package fixes security issue.
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178 posted on 05/19/2006 2:29:53 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: zeugma

"Long time Linux guru Bob Tallman said, "This is great for the open source movement. I have 7 different versions installed on my computer at home. Some guys I know have over 30.""

That's pretty geeky. They must be Democrats. They can't make up their minds. Linux is fun to play with.

Here's a market to consider:

My co-workers dump 3 to 5 computers a month on my doorstep with virus so bad they have to be nuked. Their kids cannot stop clicking on that stuff. I wonder if a basic setup with OpenOffice and Firefox would sell to them. It cost under $250 and would work with wired home systems. Then the kids could be banned from the parents' computers.

Mac is a poor choice because of price, but a WallyWorld online special should do the job nicely.


179 posted on 05/19/2006 3:06:54 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Golden Eagle
Now you'll probably pull your usual stunt and say the link is broke LOL.

As usual, you don't read or can't comprehend. KProbes is the heavy lifter, not as usable as DTrace. SystemTap is for the usability.

180 posted on 05/19/2006 4:54:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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