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SELIGMAN: ADDITIONAL MOTION FOR VOLUNTARY DISCOVERY
WRAL ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

http://www.wral.com/dukelacrosse/index.html

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: allegations; duke; dukelax; durham; falseallegations; lacrosse; northcarolina; rape
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To: Peach
If I were the defense I'd want all the alleged victim's phone calls and e-mails from the time of the alleged rape on. Has the defense got a chance of getting that?
301 posted on 05/18/2006 11:44:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mystery-ak

Yep. How pathetic!


302 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:05 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: abb

Judge orders phone discovered!!


303 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:07 AM PDT by abb (If it Ain't Posted on FreeRepublic, it Ain't News)
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To: mystery-ak

Phone, what phone? I thought is was in here....can't seem to find it.


304 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:08 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: mewzilla

"If you can talk"

HAHAHAHAHAHA


305 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:36 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RecallMoran

Judge: How does Nifong feel about integrity of cell phone?
Nifong: Have our own expert. Is reviewing cell phone seized and computer discs.
Judge: Third party phone?
Nifong: Not sure about that.
Judge: Court would like to review whatever comes of cell phone in chambers to protect privacy interests of others not involved.
Judge: Order phone be examined. Let DA and defense talk about how that can be done. If they can't come to agreement they can submit orders and judge will make decision.


306 posted on 05/18/2006 11:45:48 AM PDT by I want to know
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To: abb

Discovered--that means defense expert gets it? Help


307 posted on 05/18/2006 11:46:11 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Peach

Seligmann's attorney: Stripper's phone found outside by lacrosse players and her purse. They gave it to cops.

Judge: So it's in the custody of police department. It's matter of evidence for state.

Nifong: Lead investigator couldn't make it today, but I assume that's right.

Judge: Matter that would be evidence for you during course of trial?

Nifong: Yes. Confirms some of the testimony about what was left behind.

Judge: Want to maintain integrity of evidence if turned over to someone else you'd lose integrity of it. If you want to talk about an order.

Seligmans atty: Our expert will go to the phone and do whatever is necessary to charge it and get info off it with supervision of cops.

Nifong: I believe that's been done. What evidence does he think he's entitled to.

Judge: If you have your folks do that and the court can review that in camera we can determine if it's discoverable.

Nifong: Mr. Osbon thinks we can't do this and keep evidence safe.

Osbon: Why aren't we entitled to find out who she was calling from the house? Why can't we know the last 10 calls she made? The important thing is - if it isn't done properly and now the battery loses its charge and data in teh phone disappears. If it's started up without being charged, not handled properly...

Judge: I undestand your position on that. Mr. Nifong - it appears to me that is information that needs to be produced and court is going to order it produced.

It's part of his evidence and I'll look at your order but i want to make sure whatever is done that he's satisfied with the security of it.

I need to hear from you on that Mr. DA. Your people can then obtain whatever information you want from it, done in conjunction with defendant's counsel.

Nifong: Expert at polic department who is reviewing cell phones retried and has not processed it yet to my knowledge.

Judge: My understanding is this is a third party's phone.

Nifong: I don't know if it's her or not.

Judge: Maybe privacy issues. Whatever comes from this we'd like to review it in chambers so frankly something that shouldn't be made public isn't to protect privacy of others who weren't involved in this. I'm going to order that the phone be examined and information gotten off it. I'll let you two talk about how to get it done. If you can talk. If you can't work it out, then both submit to me porposals and I'll accept one or the other or do my own. The information that ocmes thereafter will be for my review in camera. I want to protect the information to protect the contents from release except to the court.

Osbon: You need to handle cell phone carefully.

Judge: I want to make sure no one acts on that information until I review it.


308 posted on 05/18/2006 11:46:15 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: abb

Judge is having the attorneys talk about it? For Chrissakes, judge, make a decision!


309 posted on 05/18/2006 11:46:23 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: RecallMoran
Hasn't personally prosecuted a case in five years.

Thanks. I was wondering about that.

Litigator husband says "It shows."

It does indeed. Sheesh.

310 posted on 05/18/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: abb
OMG. Nifong says comps and phones haven't been fully investigated.

Don't ask, don't tell.

311 posted on 05/18/2006 11:47:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RecallMoran

So that means that Crystal's address book in the phone (if it's not erased) is subject to discovery? Cool!


312 posted on 05/18/2006 11:47:40 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb

He looks nervous.


313 posted on 05/18/2006 11:47:40 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Mad-Margaret

Judge would like to say: "I wish I wasn't here."


314 posted on 05/18/2006 11:47:54 AM PDT by abb (If it Ain't Posted on FreeRepublic, it Ain't News)
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To: Peach
Ma'am, you are incredible! Thanks for all the work! :)

Nifong: Lead investigator couldn't make it today, but I assume that's right.

Assume?! Okaaaaay.....

315 posted on 05/18/2006 11:48:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Mad-Margaret

Osbon: Missed what he said

Judge: Ummmm, long silence. This isn't a trial. We're in criminal admin setting. There's a lot of things done fairly informally. SOmetimes I might even ask you to approach the bench. We do that every day and we don't record that. Anything of substance that you want recorded, I'll let you request that. You're tellming me you want everything said to be recorded.

Osbon: We're not asking bench conferences be recorded. But, for instance, what's going on here today we'd like to have be recorded.

Judge: I'll allow that.

Osbon: Will you hear a bond reduction.

Judge: No sir.


316 posted on 05/18/2006 11:48:50 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Peach

Nifong doing a smuck laugh


317 posted on 05/18/2006 11:49:38 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: I want to know

Defense: motion for complete recordation of this case.
Judge: this is not a trial now. anything of substance that defense wants recorded you can request that be recorded.
Judge: allow motion for everything to be recorded.
Defense: motion for bond reduction. $400,000 excessive.
Judge: bond is appropriate and was set by this court. i will reveiw and at next setting will hear it.


318 posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:10 AM PDT by I want to know
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

He's so slimey!


319 posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:13 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: abb

Yep! He's playing for the national TV cameras.

Won't entertain bond reduction hearing today. Bond is within the guidelines. And he's out.


320 posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:18 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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