Posted on 05/17/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
A man stands in the background of the Duke Lacrosse 'rape' case…watching. While the alleged rape of a black woman by three wealthy, white male students remains in criminal court, he is not likely to step forward.
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Even at this early stage, however, the accuser's mother is "very much interested" in "getting [him] involved."
Nicknamed "the Giant Killer," attorney Willie E. Gary is a litigator renowned for winning huge settlements.
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I did a search on Duke in News stories and it has really slowed down. There is a trial appearance tomorrow and there are very few stories. I think the media is not as excited about the story anymore. That makes me wonder also.
Did they find out it is not going to have the happy ending they have hoped for from the beginning?
It really has fallen off the Newspaper's radar screen.
Has anyone seen a picture of the Mother?
She looks like ET
This is where I saw the picture today
http://www.pretendpundit.com/2006/05/duke_rape_accus.html
Yes.
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I can not believe this hope it hasn't already been posted.
This site says the rape accuser only reported making 1400 dollars last year Her car insurance has to be more than that. Little miss perfect was doing something illegal under the table - prostition maybe
http://www.pretendpundit.com/2006/05/duke_rape_accus.html
I just saw on TV last week where they said the accuser has been so overwhelmed by the publicity that she asked her college to lock her records. why?
her family has said she is on the honor roll. why?
This makes me think that she is not paying for her college but going on the public dime. Not good after so many in the News Corpse have praised her for working her way thru college.
Does that sum also include the child support from the father of her out of wedlock children?
Her family has done nothing but lie about her, since this whole thing began.
I would think so. 1400 and she reported having 2100 on her or something crazy in the first police report. Somebody told me the first report has her claiming 2000 bucks was stolen from her.
If you look at her driving on a revoked license and DWIs, etc damage to vehicle to car insurance would be 3000 for one year.
That will come out in a civil trial
I hope so; the civil trial, IF it ever does get off the ground, should prove to be very interesting.
There was an article about this last month or late March. It was in the context of whether Jesse Jackson would come down to Durham or not, and it was reported then that Crystal's mother had met with Gary, and he said then he could not and would not take any action until Crystal met with him and asked him for help. Apparently Crystal still has not met with Gary. Perhaps it's because she doesn't want to go any further with this.
I posted this on the other thread, but it seems to fit better here.
That is the normal wisdom, but this might be the one case where it would be advisable to get the alleged victim on the record in advance of the trial because her story is the story that has changed and is full of holes.
The defendants have a Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate themselves, so they would not have to testify in a civil case and that is why alleged victims have to wait until after a criminal trial is concluded to file their civil suit. But for the DEFENDANTS to file a civil suit against Mangum NOW would put all of her conversations with Nifong on the record, and just think how valuable that would be in showing malfeasance, with the DA's office being the ultimate target. Once Mangum discloses Nifong's coercion and manipulation, he's dead meat, and once she's on the defensive, she will rat him out, rest assured. Remember, Nifong doesn't represent her and there is no attorney-client privilege in their communications, nor in her interviews with police, nor between the police and Nifong, up to and including Nifong's instruction to the police to ignore the fact that the guys were represented when he sent them into the dorms to interview them AND his instructions as to the photo line-up. The first thing that would happen if a civil suit was filed against Mangum is Nifong would quit communicating with her and her family, and that would be good. It would also shut him up to the media. All of her records, including medical, all claims and complainst she's previously filed, and her cell phone records would be known. It would completely peel off the DA's veneer of sacrosanct privilege and power of office and expose Nifong's unethical approach to this case and violations of civil rights. If he broke the law, and I believe he did, his department would be subject ot a massive civil suit. Only one of the guys would have to sue in order to effect all of this, and the one who should do it is the one who is in the best legal position, and that is Reade Seligmann, as far as we know right now. Neither of the other two defendants could be compelled to testify because of their Fifth Amendment protections.
Undertaking such a suit would put both Mangum and Nifong on the run. Unorthodox, yes, but deadly. To get to Nifong, you go through Mangum. She is the weakest link.
I wonder if the defense lawyers for the boys can file something in federal district court to instruct/mandate the state court to observe the defendant's Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial. In CA, a defendat has to "waive" time for a trial to be set more than 45 days after arraignment, and that includes misdemenaor cases.
It wasn't overturned. It was repealed as part of a new (court) case management process agreed upon between the defense bar and the prosecutors. The case management process replaced the speedy trial process.
I can understand why the defense bar agreed to this. In 99 out of a 100 cases, it's the defense that wants to age a case because witnesses disappear, forget, move to other states, dies, etc., and that generally benefits the defense. The prosecutors want it because it guarantees them a specific amount of time to prepare and schedule their cases.
I'm just not sure that the state of NC can legislate away a private person's Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial, especially when that person isn't even a permanent resident. I would like for a federal district judge to examine that question.
The reason OJ moved to FL was to protect his assets. FL has very different enforcement of judgment laws from other states.
Yes, could be. It might be the case for Collin, who is only 19, and maybe even Reade, 20, but I doubt if Dave, 22, would be covered. I'm guessing the cut-off age would be 21.
Dave can place assets he acquires in the future into a trust of some sort that won't be reachable if Mangum were to get a judgment against him, but I don't think that's going to happen.
Um, the condition you described is part and parcel of political correctness. It is politically correct to attack white males, especially if they're Christian, with as much venom, degradation and pillaging one can muster.
That was the other woman who said that, not the false accuser, Crystal Mangum. That was Kim Roberts, the other whore, who said that. Mangum has not spoken publicly since this all went down.
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