Duke Lacrosse DNA: Mystery Man Revealed (Accuser's Boyfriend!!!)

ABC News ^ | 13 May 06 | CHRIS CUOMO, GERRY WAGSCHAL, CHRIS FRANCESCANI and LARA SETRAKIAN

[bvw]

Thanks for the article link. Volunteerism is nice. Not enough though. Too bad that thread is in lockdown.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Under some circumstances DNA has been known to remain there for nine months or more, Skypilot.

[toldyou]

"Mr. Broomstick anxiously awaiting news of possible indictment."

Too funny!

[snarkytart]

DNA could have been there 5 or 6 days: I think I remember that the little fishes live for about three days and can be seen under a microscope.

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The point is, really, nobody can get on a stand and say for certain when the "boyfriend" DNA was deposited.
Could have been a few days before, could have been an hour before she got to the party.

That is why DNA from a vaginal swab coming from anybody other than the LAX players is not good for the prosecution, no matter what the lunkheads in the media say.

The DA only has a SANE report along with inconclusive DNA as evidence.
With the boyfriend's DNA thrown into the mix, the SANE report of "consistent with rape" because of pain and swelling, has been neutralized, because now the defense can say, "consistent with vigorous consensual sex with the sperm donor aka the boyfriend."

[bvw]

The hornets are stirred up against Duke -- Nifong`s just a boy with stones throwing them at the hornets` nest. He may go, the trial not happen, but the hornets are still there. It is Duke`s future on the line, and what are they doing about it?

[ladyjane]

What I'd like to know is: How many different semen sources did they find on the FA? I don't think that question has been addressed.

[snarkytart]

Under some circumstances DNA has been known to remain there for nine months or more, Skypilot.

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I find it hard to believe sperm could be found past several days in a vagina, let alone nine months.
The menstrual cycle would pretty much take care of washing all that out, along with in between cycle discharges.

[Sacajaweau]

I'm old now but there was a time.......

Swelling is indicative of a "very recent, long sex session" not 4-2 minute sessions with a smooth condom besides. Swelling would be diminished with just a shower and likely not observable after 24 hours.

Crystal is an active 27 year old...not exactly a virgin.

[bvw]

They (Duke U.) need to shoulder their burdern and do so quickly and assuredly. To support the students is primary -- in the trial and in life, that is by setting and making stick higher expecations of behaviour and mutual concern from both the University and the student body. The University MUST support the team, the boys the athletes and students sucked into this vortex of prosecutorial proceedings. That is simple LOYALTY and DUTY.

I'm meaning honest support -- you don't support a student doing a crime, you support the student, YOUR student. As a teacher, as a educational institution there are ways of showing sauch support that avoid, and should avoid, the direct issues of the crime.

And then Duke has to bridge -- not pander, not roll-over -- to the black community in a firm way, a way that shows a promise of better relations and involvement of the University and the student body in and with the Durham community. The community, the community of which the black community is a significant and included part.

No more late phone calls "reaching out", that's one. Daytime relations. Year-round, strong, inclusive.

The ball, and the boy's fate, and it's own fate are really in the hands of Duke's higher adminstrators and trustees. They need to act with some dispatch. IMO.

[RecallMoran]

uh, snarkytart, he means dna in chromosomes which in turn are in cells which compose a.......baby!! Get it? lol.

[wiltale]

LOL! I think s/he is talking about the baby. I just caught it myself, though.

[Sacajaweau]

The body is constantly washing itself. Saliva, tears, sweat, etc.. Pretty amazing.

[Alia]

Just more on inner Durham.

Bernice Ingram, mother of Lavonia Allison.

Bernice Ingram is Lavonia's ma, Dunbar Realty, of which Lavonia is CEO. Here's the article; it connects How such Power was Amassed in Durham.

Bryant took that privilege a significant step farther when he became one of the first two black precinct judges in Durham County, along with Bernice Ingram, in 1953. ---snips:

"Bryant, who retired in 1981 as an insurance officer after 37 years with N.C. Mutual Life, has seen several presidents come and go at the polls. He's also seen a lot of change in the way votes are counted, with machines -- which he said he adapted to well -- replacing the hand counts that used to stretch into the next day, which caused a conflict back when elections were held on Saturday.

(MY NOTE: Lavonia, when grown, served on the board of NC Mutual.)

[snarkytart]

Oh!..DUH

LOL

[F.J. Mitchell]

No menstrual cycles occur once the DNA evidence has merged itself with the DNA present in the vicinity.

[RecallMoran]

Do we have any idea who the judge might be that accepts or denies this case? Who they get will really matter.

[Sacajaweau]

Pre-arrest: Would that be where the boys went in and talked to the cops without their attorneys present?? (Miranda Rights Issue).

[Sacajaweau]

Missed the 9 moths bit?? Think someones just tired. :-)

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Homer`Evans`owns the property where the Mangums live--did you run across his name?

[snarkytart]

Swelling is indicative of a "very recent, long sex session" not 4-2 minute sessions with a smooth condom besides. Swelling would be diminished with just a shower and likely not observable after 24 hours

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Not always true. If the sex was vigorous, and she did it a few times over 24 our period, there would certainly be swelling the next day.
Mild swelling for non vigorous sex.

Have you never been to the OBGYN and had he/she ask if you have had sex recently, like the night before, because they see some swelling??

hmmmm