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Is There a Virus Threat for Macs?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 11, 2006 | Walter S. Mossberg

Posted on 05/11/2006 1:24:06 PM PDT by quidnunc

There's no other major item most of us own that is as confusing, unpredictable and unreliable as our personal computers. Everybody has questions about them, and we aim to help.

Here are a few questions about computers I've received recently from people like you, and my answers. I have edited and restated the questions a bit, for readability. This week my mailbox contained a question about security software for Macs.

If you have a question, send it to me at mossberg@wsj.com, and I may select it to be answered here in Mossberg's Mailbox.

Q: There's been a lot of press lately about increased virus activity on the Macintosh platform. Should Mac owners now be running the same kinds of security software that Windows owners use?

A: There is no sudden security crisis on the Apple Macintosh platform. In fact, for average Mac users, there isn't a security threat of any significance, at least not yet. It is laughable to compare the real, massive and burdensome security problems on Windows with the largely theoretical security problem on the Mac.

As I have said in the past, no operating system is invulnerable to attack, including Apple's Mac OS X operating system, which powers Macintosh computers. It is possible to write malicious software for the Mac, including viruses and spyware, and it is possible for this software to spread in the wild, infecting many Macs.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: impossible; jobsisgod; macsareperfect
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To: js1138
With 300,000 programs that won't run on it...

Almost 90% of them will with VirtualPC... and 100% of them with Boot Camp.

141 posted on 05/13/2006 2:59:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

I was just kidding... I got epilepsy from playing nintendo BEFORE the warning lables and I never sued them.


142 posted on 05/13/2006 2:59:54 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker

Surely not the viruses and spyware. All of them?


143 posted on 05/13/2006 3:02:45 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Echo Talon

Look guys, it's 3:00 AM here and the SciFi channel's Outer Limits just ended so I am going to take my old carcase to bed... yawn.


144 posted on 05/13/2006 3:03:32 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

yea im off to bed too... :) nite world.


145 posted on 05/13/2006 3:04:54 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: js1138
Surely not the viruses and spyware. All of them?

Using Boot Camp boots the Mac into a full fledged WindowsXP Pro OS... and it would be just as susceptible to ALL of them as a Windows XP on any other maker's box. They couldn't touch the Mac OS X partition though.

I run AVG, MS Anti-Spyware, and Spybot Search and Destroy on my Windows XP Pro installation on my Virtual PC... and I DON'T surf the web or receive email on it... except to upgrade the anti-ware and their definitions.

146 posted on 05/13/2006 3:07:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: js1138

Good nite, JS


147 posted on 05/13/2006 3:07:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: BJungNan

That hyperbole.

Similarly equipped (HW & SW) Macs and PCs are fairly close in price. Macs are definitely NOT 3 or 4 times the price.


148 posted on 05/13/2006 5:14:38 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: MadIvan
Microsoft is like Ford. . .

I'd say it's more like the old AMC, but good summation.

149 posted on 05/13/2006 5:21:52 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: savedbygrace
I use a Mac and am very happy with it.

Evertime I tried MS I got burned. I've never given Linux a fair shot.

150 posted on 05/13/2006 5:27:48 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Echo Talon
its usually common courtesy to ping someone when you talk sh*t about them, but then again... you're an iProduct

Who were you directing this at. You have me confused on this one.

151 posted on 05/13/2006 8:38:43 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Swordmaker
While it used to be fun to work on PCs and MS Windows, after so many years of cleaning them up after disasters, I developed a shear hatred for them. I made a deliberate decision to eschew Windows computers for my personal use and selected Macs and OS X. It's extremely nice to come home to a computer that just works that I don't have to tweak it, download daily virus and malware definitions, and run protective applications in the background stealing CPU cycles, or spend time doing maintanence to get it to do so.

That's pretty much how I'd put it myself, with the exception of going the Linux route rather than OSX. The peace of mind non-geeks get with Macs is enough for me to recommend them to people if they aren't willing to make the effort it takes to learn Linux (which really isn't much more than the effort it takes to learn  MS-windows well).

152 posted on 05/13/2006 9:59:21 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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To: MadIvan
Linux is like a hot rod motorcycle.

Fast, sure sometimes, but very rough riding and hard to drive, terribly few creature comforts, and you're constantly exposed to the natural elements. Ergo, there's not many on the road, whether it's cheaper to buy than an actual car or not.

153 posted on 05/13/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: MadIvan
My latest project is to use Linux to revive a first generation iMac that my parents have at home (I'm choosing Yellow Dog Linux for that). If I can get it into a viable state, then we'll give it to a local school.

The latest issue of Linux Journal has an article about some geek with way  too much time on his hands installing YDL onto an IPOD so he could boot Linux on his MAC.

154 posted on 05/13/2006 10:43:11 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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To: Swordmaker
Well done Swordmaker!

I don't understand the antipathy of the freeper in question for Macs. OSX and Linux are both Unix underneath.

Sucks that we've got two trolls on the tech threads. At least this one appears to mainly infect just the Mac threads :-)

155 posted on 05/13/2006 10:52:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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To: Echo Talon

Oh look, it has a floppy. How '90s.


156 posted on 05/13/2006 11:09:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Fast, sure sometimes, but very rough riding and hard to drive, terribly few creature comforts, and you're constantly exposed to the natural elements

I'd compare earlier Linux to a roadster I had. Small, light and no unnecessary creature comforts like carpeting, soundproofing, ABS, power steering, power brakes, power windows, cruise control or A/C. It didn't even have sun visors or (all Americans go into shock now) cupholders!

But the performance and handling on that car ruined me for all others. Everything else just feels so cumbersome and out of touch with the road.

I'd compare modern Linux to what that car became in the US -- most creature comforts added in, much heavier, but also more powerful.

157 posted on 05/13/2006 11:43:50 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker
That's the problem with Linux... most people want to work with their computers, not ON them

That's the argument against Windows from a Mac point of view.

I, like most people, don't want to. At 57 years old (in three weeks or so)

Happy birthday in case I forget.

158 posted on 05/13/2006 11:47:00 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: savedbygrace

I paid $900 for the system I use at home. The mac at work was way over that. Maybe not 4 times more expensive but way more than it should have cost.


159 posted on 05/13/2006 12:05:15 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
YOu should not buy a Mac because they are not worth the extra money.

Let's see, I just priced an iMac with an equivalent PC, going on average adult home user wants something full-featured and decently powerful, OEM, small space, wants to do standard stuff with the Internet, virus-free, average office-type stuff, and playing with the home movies and photos, and some average gaming.

The more capable little iMac came out cheaper than the SFF Gateway (and a hell of a lot better looking on the desktop). The big iMac came out cheaper than the Sony, but the Sony has a TV tuner, where the iMac is faster.

Where's that extra money claim?

160 posted on 05/13/2006 12:09:19 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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