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Lacrosse defense witness arrested. (Black cabbie arrested after refusing to change his story)
The News Observer ^ | 5-11-2006 | Joseph Neff and Samiha Khanna, Staff Writers

Posted on 05/11/2006 6:19:27 AM PDT by rwilson99

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To: wtc911
If your point is that the DA is trying to intimidate a witness are you saying that he would not have done so if the guy were white?

I'm ok with this FWIW. Remember that the south in general, and certainly, as we have read here as related to this case, Durham, still is very conscious of race. There is still an undercurrent of the bad old days when blacks better do as they're told, especially by a police officer or official, whether it seems to be on the level or not.

I agree that the State AG needs to do something here. As somebody wrote on the other thread, this prosecution is long past the point where it looks like something out of Nigeria or Haiti.

41 posted on 05/11/2006 7:01:34 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: rwilson99
"The lawyers have said that Elmostafa's account and the records exonerate Seligmann."

"Clayton, who is working under Gottlieb on the case, picked up Elmostafa on Wednesday afternoon."

"The detective asked if I had anything new to say about the lacrosse case," Elmostafa said. "When I said no, they took me to the magistrate."

"Conner said it was highly unusual for police to arrest someone for a misdemeanor more than two years after the crime."

"He contrasted the treatment of the taxi driver with that of Kim Roberts, the other dancer at the party. Conner said Roberts initially told police no rape occurred at the party but changed her story after she was arrested on a probation violation. District Attorney Mike Nifong later reduced Roberts' bail."
42 posted on 05/11/2006 7:02:11 AM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: rwilson99

Durham: District Attorney Nifong today arrested a 6 year old girl on charges of failing to obtain a license to sell lemonade in front of her house. Nifong asked the court to remand the girl without the possibility of bail.

Detectives for Nifong grilled the girl for over three days under heat lamps while repeatedly exposing her to looped Nifong campaign speeches in attempting to gain a confession.

Nifong has also arrested the girl's parents, siblings and grandparents on charges of aiding and abetting a known criminal.

Nifong has indicated he may seek the death and dismemberment penalty when the case comes to trial in six years, just after his next re-election cycle.


43 posted on 05/11/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: Jonx6

a WTF ping...


44 posted on 05/11/2006 7:04:39 AM PDT by TXFireman
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To: rwilson99

I'm surprised this made the news. This is just typical prosecutor witness intimidation that happens everywhere. It's probably gone on forever, but it has gotten worse in recent decades as the war on drugs is turning us into a country of informants, with paid witnesses and witnesses in serious trouble who will do or say anything to save themselves. Prosecutors have gotten used to having threats hanging over the heads of their witnesses because they have this advantage in so many of their cases these days. They'll look for a way to do that in any case because it helps ensure a favorable outcome for them. I don't think it would be fair to say that they always or even most of the time demand witnesses lie for them, but they will demand the "truth" and the witnesses facing big trouble figure out that if they want to save their own rear ends the "truth" is whatever police and prosecutors want it to be.


45 posted on 05/11/2006 7:07:53 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: rwilson99

I am seeing and reading more and more about this prosocutorial misconduct occuring in other states and municipalities as well. How can we, as citizens, respond to and/or correct this type of situation? We are supposed to be able to seek redress of our grievences per the constitution. How do we do it?


46 posted on 05/11/2006 7:08:15 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Time to bring back tar and feathering.)
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To: freedumb2003

How about Calyso Louie? :)


47 posted on 05/11/2006 7:11:35 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: rwilson99

This is one of the craziest arrest I have ever heard about. This is witness intimidation, in my opinion. This guy did nothing wrong 2 years ago, in fact, he was very helpful in helping the police find the guilty parties. There needs to be a local big-time lawyer to come forward, and take this guy's case without charge.


48 posted on 05/11/2006 7:14:26 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rwilson99
This is reminiscent of the situation in which the guy who videotaped Ivory Webb shooting Elio Carrion was then mysteriously arrested on a several-year-old charge in Florida
49 posted on 05/11/2006 7:15:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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---I'm surprised this made the news. This is just typical prosecutor witness intimidation that happens everywhere.---

Yes, but what's interesting is that in this case it takes place in the glare of the national spotlight.


50 posted on 05/11/2006 7:16:54 AM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: rawhide

How about this guy?

http://www.williegary.com/

Nevermind, he's trying to woo the AV.


51 posted on 05/11/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: E Rocc

Sure Banks = Rich white kids got it /s


52 posted on 05/11/2006 7:24:02 AM PDT by NAVY84 (The path of least resistance for Democrats is TREASON!)
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To: Drango
Perhaps, but I don't know how they are gonna get past the video on the ATM machine and the time stamp.

Computers crash ans lose data all the time. The copies that the defense team have are phtoshopped. Since no original records exist, the defense has no evidence.

53 posted on 05/11/2006 7:39:16 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: rwilson99

TheDA is after this guy either because he's a witness or because he's black, which is it?


54 posted on 05/11/2006 7:40:56 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Howlin; OakOak

filing


55 posted on 05/11/2006 7:42:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: brwnsuga

Especially given the actual thief already pleaded guilty one would imagine the case was closed.


56 posted on 05/11/2006 7:56:43 AM PDT by visualops (America... www.visualops.com ...is not just a job site.)
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To: rwilson99; wtc911

rwilson99, don't waste your time responding. wtc911's just looking for a fight.


57 posted on 05/11/2006 7:59:44 AM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: spunkets
No kidding. What a hellhole!

I was thinking of moving down to Durham. My company has a branch there, and there are a lot of nice old houses in Durham with preservation credits and tax abatements available. Living would be a heck of a lot cheaper than in suburban NJ.

But this case has really soured me to the whole idea. I still might wind up in North Carolina, but the idea of moving into an old house in Durham and fixing it up is pretty much by the boards. Who wants to move into a jurisdiction that is so hostile?

58 posted on 05/11/2006 8:06:20 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Rice 2008)
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To: freedumb2003
For once, I want to see the ACLU swing into action.

This case does not fit their agenda. They will ignore it.

The ACLU only pursues cases that advance the agenda.

59 posted on 05/11/2006 8:10:42 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Rice 2008)
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To: freedumb2003
For once, I want to see the ACLU swing into action.

This case does not fit their agenda. They will ignore it.

The ACLU only pursues cases that advance the agenda.

60 posted on 05/11/2006 8:10:54 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Rice 2008)
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