I was listening to Nancy Grace on XM when I went to pick up son. It sounded like the female FBI profiler bitch slapped (scuse me) Nancy and the rest of the rape Nazi's saying Nifong better have more than an Ace up his sleeve 'cause he's got nothing else.
It was right before the break, music was playing, but bless her heart, she kept on talking.
Oh yeah. She did. She brought reality to the show.
Nancy lied and lied and misled and the misled more ..
The Crimal Profiler, Pat ?, she said it doesn't look like any rape seen to her. She started to point and why and a Commercial break came up really quick. Nancy ushered her out quick as she could. A male profiler couldn't have said that without Nancy attacking him as a cross of Hitler and Jeffery Dalhmer.
Pat Brown: http://www.patbrownprofiling.com/bio.html
But first tonight, breaking news, Duke University DNA bombshell in the lacrosse team rape investigation. Does tissue under the nails of the alleged victim match one of the three Duke lacrosse players? Tonight, we are taking your calls.
GRACE: Well, it all looked bleak for the prosecution of the Duke lacrosse team multiple rape case. At the 11th hour, suddenly, a Hail Mary pass was thrown, and it`s a touchdown for the state! Apparently, DNA matching one of these three lacrosse players has turned up under the nails of the student-turned-stripper.
GRACE: Well, wait a minute, Kevin Miller. What do you mean, it`s not a 100 percent match? Because when I prosecuted DNA cases, you`ll have a one-in-three-million match, you`ll have a one-in-four-trillion match likelihood that this is the person. So what do you mean, it`s not a 100 percent match?
MILLER: Well, Nancy, let me again say that, again, this is based on published reports. It hasn`t been confirmed by the prosecutor`s office or the defense, as far as I know...
MILLER: Well, for a DNA test -- and I`m not a DNA expert -- you have to have, let`s say, 13 of 13 characteristics. From what we know from these reports, there are not all 13 there. So you might have 10 of 13, which could lead to some doubt about the reliability of the DNA. Plus you go back to the tissue sample, it`s not a complete sample, Nancy, from what we know.
GRACE: Now, that can mean a number of things. Kevin Miller, reporting straight out of North Carolina with WPTF radio. Let`s go to the expert tonight. Joining us is Dr. Daniel Spitz. He is a forensic pathologist. Dr. Spitz, when we refer to the 13 markers in DNA, correct me if I`m wrong, but doesn`t that mean there are 13 matching comparisons between the unknown DNA, what`s under the nails, and the known DNA, which is taken from the oral swabbing of the lacrosse players?
DR. DANIEL SPITZ, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Well, that`s correct. They use 13 different regions, and if you match all 13, that is what generally is characterized as a positive result. That`s where you get those huge numbers, one in several million, one in several billion.
What we`re dealing with here is less than a complete 13 out of 13 region match.
GRACE: Wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wait! Before we keep perpetuating the phraseology of "not 100 percent match," could it be, instead of 1 in 4 trillion match, it could be 1 in 5,000 match?
SPITZ: Well, it could be. We don`t know how many of the different regions are actually -- are actually matching. If it`s 10 out of 13, that`s probably still pretty good, and that`s going to give you a high probability that...
GRACE: Such as?
SPITZ: Well, it`s hard to know. You can`t really put that because you don`t have the -- the exact matches, which is what`s used. You -- 13 out of 13 is what gives those huge results. When you have less than that, you`re going to have different people giving you different amounts. So if it`s one or two or three or four, the probability goes way down, and you`re going to have different people arguing different amounts.
GRACE: Now, hold on. Forget all these different hypothetical people you`re talking about. I want to know what Dr. Daniel Spitz thinks. If there are 10 out of the 13 markers that match, what`s a general ballpark of comparison, 1 out of 5,000, or are we still up around 1 in 100,000?
SPITZ: No, you`re not that high. It drops off very rapidly once you have...
GRACE: OK.
SPITZ: ... once you don`t have 13 out of 13. The test involves 13 out of 13. That`s what is a positive result. If it`s not 13 out of 13, it`s really not a positive test. You can only use the phraseology "consistent with." And we don`t know how many match, at this point.
GRACE: OK. Let me go back to my original question. With, say, 10 out of 13, how much lower does the match go?
SPITZ: Oh, it drops off very rapidly.
GRACE: Right. I heard that. Are you saying 1 in 100, 1 in 5,000, what?
SPITZ: Yes, probably 1 in several thousand. But it goes...
GRACE: They show her photo number 7, Tiff. "He looks like one of the guys who assaulted me." "How sure of that are you?" "One hundred percent sure." Sergeant, "You`re 100 percent sure? OK." "Yes."
That`s pretty good ID, Tiffany. And, "How did he assault you? Which one was he?" "He was the one standing in front of me that made me perform oral sex on him." "What else did he do?" "That was it." And we are referring to photo 7. I`m turning to it right now. Photo 7 is Reade Seligmann. That`s pretty good ID, Tiffany.
TIFFANY KOENIG, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it sounds really good, except for when you put it back in the context that they actually told her, Well, you`re going to be looking at 46 photos of people who were at the party. In essence, there is no wrong answer. She could have named anybody at that stage because they all were at the party.
GRACE: Eleanor, response?
DIXON: ... she`s actually saying. She`s very specific, as you pointed out, where everybody is, what exactly they were doing. So she`s not just picking out random people. She`s able to tell you what each person at the party was doing. And when she was sure, she says, I`m 100 percent sure. I think that`s pretty good.
I want to go back to Kevin Miller, reporter with WPTF radio. Kevin, I want to talk also about a pubic hair that has now come into play. It is a white male pubic hair. Nobody`s saying where it came from. But the fact that it is being made known around the same time as the DNA is being made known suggests to me it came out of the rape kit.
MILLER: Well, Nancy, having had a chance to talk to sources on both sides of this case, it was news to them today that it came out. And if you read the report, apparently, the hair has no root, which plays into it, as well. But from what I understand, sources close to both sides have told me that this it the first they`ve heard of it.