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To: Howlin; OakOak

There's somebody on the DPD involved in this who is at least as prejudiced as Nifong and quite possibly has some personal animus against the lacrosse players or personal interest in the AV herself. I'm guessing that person is probably Mark Gottlieb, who appears to be calling the shots in the police investigation.

Is Gottlieb a client of Crystal or of Crystal's escort agency? Was Gottlieb around during the prostitution scandal in the 90s and managed to skate free? Is Gottlieb involved with the local drug scene? Do people in Crystal's crowd have something with which to blackmail Gottlieb?

Was Gottlieb one of the detectives who conducted the 8 hour police station interviews with the three housemates?Did something happen during those interviews that left Gottfried with a personal animus towards the lacrosse players? Maybe he just didn't like their looks or maybe they brought some attitude in to those interviews.

Or does Nifong have something on Gottlieb? Nifong was in charge of traffic court for some years. Was Nifong fixing DUI and other offenses for favored individuals and is now calling in his chits, at least on Gottlieb?

The ham-handed arrest of Mostafa and the apparent attempt to influence his testimony may actually amount to a crime, and is of a piece with the whole pattern of the police investigation in this case.

While other DPD officers appear to have been skeptical (e.g., the officer who was overheard saying Crystal was unreliable and changed her story, the officer on the scene who said she was just passed out drunk, etc.), one of the investigators, probably Gottlieb, is skewing the investigation and evidence-collecting process.

Why? The defense investigators need to be looking into this angle. Who knows how much corruption would be found in the DPD if the lid was pried off.



113 posted on 05/11/2006 4:20:55 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I speculated that our little "Mother of the Year" was blackmiling someone in the DiFong pack, too.

I'm still trying to comprehend why any of this Duke students would want to take her on. I doubt any of them are that desparate.

114 posted on 05/11/2006 4:26:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

And why is the newbie City Manager talking to the officer's superiors. Isn't he breaking the chain of command, bypassing the Police Chief? Where is Chalmers?


http://www.nbc17.com/news/9194586/detail.html

(City Manager Patrick) Baker told NBC17 he has not spoken to the officer who the Duke officer allegedly overheard, but he has spoken to the officer's superiors. The only comment they had about the Duke officer's account was that no one on the Durham police force knows the source of the accuser's initial statement about being raped by 20 men.


116 posted on 05/11/2006 4:30:35 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Gottlieb is the investigator who led the accuser through the photo ID. When she said of Picture 5, "He looks just like him (one of the attackers) only without the mustache." Gottlieb helpfully asked, "OK, so the person had a mustache?" and she answered, "Yes,"

Wonder how he'll explain indicting another clean shaven player?


139 posted on 05/11/2006 5:54:59 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Who knows how much corruption would be found in the DPD if the lid was pried off.

Exactly. There is so much to be questioned in re AV, and what's been going down in Durham for a LOT of years.

I remember some weird stuff went down in NY too. Appears NY was hiring "criminals" for their PD. The bad cops were shaking down dealers for a share in the "money". All done under "preferential affirmative action" and "quotas".

And dig this: Something Like the current RAPE SHIELD LAWS: wherein you cannot ASK someone about "former criminal convictions".

441 posted on 05/11/2006 5:49:00 PM PDT by Alia
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