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Duke based initial gang-rape reactions on campus officer who eavesdropped on call
Durham Herald Sun ^ | 5/10/2006 | Ray Gronberg

Posted on 05/09/2006 10:05:31 PM PDT by OakOak

By Ray Gronberg : The Herald-Sun gronberg@heraldsun.com May 9, 2006 : 10:53 pm ET

DURHAM -- A March 14 Duke Police Department report that downplayed gang-rape allegations against the school's lacrosse team stemmed from what a Duke officer overheard while listening to a Durham Police Department sergeant's cell phone conversation, City Manager Patrick Baker said Tuesday.

The Duke officer, Christopher Day, never actually spoke to the sergeant or conducted any follow-up inquiry before telling his superiors that the woman at the center of the case had changed her story several times, and that her allegations were unlikely to produce serious charges, Baker said.

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To: JLS

[But sending your kid off to a place where many hate them for their race and sex is not in my view a good decision either.]

Sending white males to nearly all feminist controlled public schools and universities is no longer a good thing for young men.


121 posted on 05/10/2006 5:32:35 PM PDT by ohhhh (...every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.)
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To: Neverforget01; Locomotive Breath; ladyjane; Jezebelle; Protect the Bill of Rights; ...

I think we should ALL QUESTION the Durham PD comments.

After, all didn't we just hear that Duke's actions were hampered by a lack of diversity. The same thing should apply to Durham Police. We don't know how diverse the Durham PD is, so all information disseminated should be questioned. We should know the Racial, gender, sexual orientation, and politial affliations to see if they are a truly diverse group. Otherwise, all data and decisions emanating from this group will most likely be skewed by inherent biases and limited cultural experiences. Do we know if a white officer was dispatched to question the players that night? The report tells us that a non-white officer would most likely have, due to a cultural divide and lack of awareness to the White experience, been less inclined to believe the lacrosse players and be inherently distrustful of their statements. Do we know if the police officer has been properly trained in dealing with young, white men? This is critical. If officers are not trained and attuned to dealing with these citizens of the community, they will most likely not receive fair treatment by the authorities. This is extremely worrisome.

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122 posted on 05/10/2006 5:46:42 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the background on these guys.


123 posted on 05/10/2006 6:01:27 PM PDT by Grandma Pam
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To: darbymcgill

Thank you Darby !!

I'm interested in that chain of evidence.

All of Kim's actions that night make her extremely suspicious - including coaxing or comforting Crystal, outside the residence to go in and dance (first entry - arrival)

"a neighbor that I interviewed actually says that he saw the women outside. The victim was hesitant. She didn’t want to go inside. She said I had never done this before and the other woman he describes sort of COMFORTED HER"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12065803/

Since there's usually a grain of truth in effective lies - It raises Red Flags to me that Kim Roberts says SHE GAVE CRYSTAL HER DRINK.

It's entirely with the realm (speculation) that Kim was told when she was dispatched that the other girl won't be there til XX:XX because she has a bachelor party or something to that degree. I can hear Kim saying to herself why shouldn't I profit MORE, I have to feed my kids.

I don't know what happened in that house, but I believe no matter what evidence comes out, that Kim was running a scam or trying to execute some petty theft or more. If we take her at her word that she was the only SOBER person, imagine her criminal mind and her fondness of $$ - seeing an opportunity to grab some cash, pocket a couple things. What are these kids or the other stripper going to do, call the Duke Police and report they were real drunk and a stripper stole something from me? I have to wonder if Kim gave her real name to anyone that night - even Crystal. The only thing that messed up her plan was that Crystal was holding on to the door and the emergency brake and wouldn't get out of the car. If you listen to the 2nd 911 call, Kim wants the woman out of her car. I don't think she had any intention of getting the Security guard involved. In fact, we don't that the Security guard didn't see Kim struggling to get Crystal out and the Guard approached her OR that if a customer didn't alert the Security Guard to the incident in the parking lot. The Evidence is pretty strong that if Crystal gets out or falls out of that car, Kim is out of there. Remember, Kim had a Cell phone, she could've got Kim help at any time or called her Escort service and asked for help or information on the other stripper.

Kim was arrested 8 (EIGHT days) after the party (wasn't there a 7 day war?) .... Eight days is a testament to Kim's desire to stay away from authorities or have ANY involvement in the case. Did Kim think they wanted to search her house, APT, or car for Crystal's belongings or Money?



124 posted on 05/10/2006 6:33:43 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak

Too bad someone doesn't ask Wendy Manhater that question just to make her looks stupid.
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Yeah, but the most important thing is that she is so obvious that no one takes her seriously.

The question that I asked elsewhere in this or some thread is why does any respectable network put her on and treats her seriously? No one else puts on clan members. It is rare these days when African-American Jew baiting separatists are on FNC or even CNN and they are not treated seriously. Why then is she on or treated with anything but the ridicule she deserves?


125 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:32 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

JLS,

You're right! What other person foaming at the mouth with Hate is allowed on TV regularly (unless it's to beat them up, and then they don't come back - so it's not Regularly)

I can't think of any other Rapid people like that on TV.

There's still a group of people you can Hate outwardly on National TV apparently


126 posted on 05/10/2006 9:32:43 PM PDT by OakOak
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To: Neverforget01

Re: Wendy Murphy, "professor" at one of the crappiest law schools in the entire nation, and that's saying something!

She looks like CHUCKY!! Same evil personality and voice, too.


127 posted on 05/10/2006 11:41:13 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: David Allen; All

DNA NEWS !!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1630332/posts

.. DNA ..


128 posted on 05/11/2006 12:14:13 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak

thanks for the heads up!


129 posted on 05/11/2006 1:16:26 AM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: OakOak

As someone posted last month, Kim and her brother have My Space accounts. On each of their accounts is a blonde named Shannon Roberts. It sounds like she must be married to another brother.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=52876105

A Woman Owned and Operated Business Specializing in Boudoir, Models Portfolio's, Escort/Adult entertainment add's and Custom oil and Watercolor paintings. Priviate sessions in the comfort of my El Dorado Hills home. House calls also available.


130 posted on 05/11/2006 1:21:36 AM PDT by Waterfall
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