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To: BlueStateDepression
Oh yes, our military and our industry is the problem......FFS!

You seem to contend that you know much more about such things AND are much smarter about what you know than President Eisenhower. Guess I disagree on that score. I don't think you come close to his knowledge, at least, on that score. Your postings to me here have not proven to me that you are smarter. It's conceivable that you are.

You seem to derisively mock the idea there there is a growing globalist cabal of industrial and planted personnel in the military . . . and the revolving doors between the positions . . . gearing up to force a tyrannical globalist government on the world. If you doubt that, then my only conclusion is that you have not researched the topic well at all. Or you simply choose to disbelieve the enormously aundant evidence. Your disbelief won't hinder the coming global tyranny one microgram's worth, however.

Applied to this context, it is not the ID that people are so against, even though they pose it that way. It is the abuses they are against. I stand with those folks as to abuse but I differ with you and them on this point. ID abuse is happening today. It can be dealt with far better than it is today with a far more accurate form of ID replacing the redundant ID's we have today that are easy to forge.

Changing abuse of ID's to abuse of people is not progress, in our view.

Some experts contend that the SLAG chip implants would be abusable, too.

Lack fo perfection is not failure. Lack of doing possible things to make the situation better IS!

I don't recall saying anything about avoiding enforcing the ID abuse rules we have now. Certainly they should be fittingly enforced.

To qualify that opposition as valid one must offer an alternative along side that opposition. Without doing so, folks might just as well join the democratic party because that is the politics they practice....opposition without alternative solution.

I've mentioned 2 above. 1) Strengthen the family. 2) Strengthen the belief and practice of Judeo/Christian values.

3. Guarding the borders as any government is minimally expected to do, would help. Of course, the same people bringing you the SLAG are intent on creating one country for NORTHAM. They have already divided the world up into 10 regions, of which NORTHAM is one. There is a method to their madness of making the borders nonexistent.

4. Enforcing rules regarding employers and establishing a viable, sane way to add needed extra workers would help.

5. Strengthening the sense, truth, practice, emotional bondedness, cohesiveness, durability of neighborhoods and other communities would help.

6. Strengthening the enforcement of laws on the books would help.

7. Replacing the hideous court shams and abuses with a much healthier, more viable and FASTER system of adjudication would help.

8. Having a much improved punishment system and where practical, a more viable rehab system and reintegration system of former offenders back into the community would help.

9. Rewarding models of humility, community leadership, personal responsibility stars etc. at least 20% as much as we reward rock stars would help.

10. Removing corrupt public officials at all levels would help.

412 posted on 05/09/2006 9:39:09 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Quix
You seem to contend that you know much more about such things AND are much smarter about what you know than President Eisenhower.

I contend that today's world is not the same world as it was in his time. I contend that context matters. The context of today is not the same as in his time. You really going to make the case that it is the same? I think not, so I will disregard that bit.

The USA military is not my enemy and if you think it is then by all means escape. You are free to do so after all.

I say to you that I am all for you being free to practice your religion. I support that entirely. I say to you that it should not be forced upon anyone and you call stupid...or as you put it ( not as smart as).... Whatever. I do not have the right to push my religion opn you and you do not have the right to push your religion on me. I am sorry you cannot grant me the same respect that I grant you. It says alot about your position that you would do sucha thing.

One can put in place safeguards as this nation has done thruout all its history. Sometimes unforseen examples present themselves and there is a method to deal with them already in place. You are the one seeking tyranny by installing a religion and forcing all people to accept it. OSAMA would be proud on some levels. He wants to do that very thing also, just a different religion.

Having and ID does not equate to abuse. If an ID is abused then we should deal with that. Having the ID istelf is not an abuse.

ANYTHING is open to abuse, I mean ANYTHING. My grass can be abused by the schoolagers coming from across the street. SO WHAT? No schoolagers should be able to walk down my street becasue THEY MIGHT abuse my grass? NO! Deal with the ones that do when they do it.

I've mentioned 2 above. 1) Strengthen the family. 2) Strengthen the belief and practice of Judeo/Christian values.>BR>
Actually you want to accomplish 1) by imposing 2). GTood luck with that.

About the chip, I belive it has its proper place. I sure think it would have been a good thing to have seen jessica lynch with one. Scott micheal Speicher and Michael Durante as well. I know you will SOOOO diagree with that HUH?

Think about your border stance for a minute. You are advocating an ID! A National one! I agree with that entirely.

A sane way to hold employers accountable is to require a valid form of ID that is accurate and checkable. That takes a database to draw upon to check ID presented. If foreign workers are desired then an employer should have to show why Americans are not taking these jobs, I offer that a reality based look at such a thing would show that foreign labor is an attempt to cheat the free market and the forces that guide it. If they can show they offer a wage worth the job as to their profits then by all means allow seasonal workers to come here in an orderly identified fashion.

Strengthening the sense, truth, practice, emotional bondedness, cohesiveness, durability of neighborhoods and other communities would help

A proper ID would indeed promote all these things.

Strengthening the enforcement of laws on the books would help.

Ditto

Proper ID and an end to the what if arguments would help the courts alot. David westerfield trial is a great example. Prosecution negotiated with him about the location of danielle's body. If they took Death Penalty off the table he would tell them where the body was located. The jury NEVER got to hear that tidbit. Yet every waht if was presented even though it was known from the very begining he did what he did to that little girl. Research that trial a bit if you didn't catch it and you will see what I mean. Truth needs to be more involved in the court procedures and that would alot of the stalling that goes on.

Rehab is why so many reoffend. They were not punished. Look to Mousaui...poor little guy had a troubled childhooooooooooooddddd.....WHAHAAAAA... SO now we get to pay tax dollars for decades instead of being done with someone that has no right to walk among us.

We can remove public officials via the vote. I agree it is time people wake up and do that vewry thing. Can we start with Kerry and Kennedy?
433 posted on 05/09/2006 10:17:36 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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