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To: Quix

Oh yes, our military and our industry is the problem......FFS!

Tony Blair said it best when he said something along these lines when referring to Abu Graib. It is impossible to be perfect. Some people will do bad things and that is unstoppable. The measure of a nation ( or a persons) worth is not in the lack of perfection in avoiding such things, it is measured by what is done about it when it eventually does happen.

Applied to this context, it is not the ID that people are so against, even though they pose it that way. It is the abuses they are against. I stand with those folks as to abuse but I differ with you and them on this point. ID abuse is happening today. It can be dealt with far better than it is today with a far more accurate form of ID replacing the redundant ID's we have today that are easy to forge.

Lack fo perfection is not failure. Lack of doing possible things to make the situation better IS!

Saying that possible 'what if" abuses could happen as the reason to oppose is fine if all you seek to offer is opposition. To qualify that opposition as valid one must offer an alternative along side that opposition. Without doing so, folks might just as well join the democratic party because that is the politics they practice....opposition without alternative solution hinging on the worst case "what if's" while ignoring the tangible benefits of that which they oppose.


352 posted on 05/09/2006 7:08:52 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
Oh yes, our military and our industry is the problem......FFS!

You seem to contend that you know much more about such things AND are much smarter about what you know than President Eisenhower. Guess I disagree on that score. I don't think you come close to his knowledge, at least, on that score. Your postings to me here have not proven to me that you are smarter. It's conceivable that you are.

You seem to derisively mock the idea there there is a growing globalist cabal of industrial and planted personnel in the military . . . and the revolving doors between the positions . . . gearing up to force a tyrannical globalist government on the world. If you doubt that, then my only conclusion is that you have not researched the topic well at all. Or you simply choose to disbelieve the enormously aundant evidence. Your disbelief won't hinder the coming global tyranny one microgram's worth, however.

Applied to this context, it is not the ID that people are so against, even though they pose it that way. It is the abuses they are against. I stand with those folks as to abuse but I differ with you and them on this point. ID abuse is happening today. It can be dealt with far better than it is today with a far more accurate form of ID replacing the redundant ID's we have today that are easy to forge.

Changing abuse of ID's to abuse of people is not progress, in our view.

Some experts contend that the SLAG chip implants would be abusable, too.

Lack fo perfection is not failure. Lack of doing possible things to make the situation better IS!

I don't recall saying anything about avoiding enforcing the ID abuse rules we have now. Certainly they should be fittingly enforced.

To qualify that opposition as valid one must offer an alternative along side that opposition. Without doing so, folks might just as well join the democratic party because that is the politics they practice....opposition without alternative solution.

I've mentioned 2 above. 1) Strengthen the family. 2) Strengthen the belief and practice of Judeo/Christian values.

3. Guarding the borders as any government is minimally expected to do, would help. Of course, the same people bringing you the SLAG are intent on creating one country for NORTHAM. They have already divided the world up into 10 regions, of which NORTHAM is one. There is a method to their madness of making the borders nonexistent.

4. Enforcing rules regarding employers and establishing a viable, sane way to add needed extra workers would help.

5. Strengthening the sense, truth, practice, emotional bondedness, cohesiveness, durability of neighborhoods and other communities would help.

6. Strengthening the enforcement of laws on the books would help.

7. Replacing the hideous court shams and abuses with a much healthier, more viable and FASTER system of adjudication would help.

8. Having a much improved punishment system and where practical, a more viable rehab system and reintegration system of former offenders back into the community would help.

9. Rewarding models of humility, community leadership, personal responsibility stars etc. at least 20% as much as we reward rock stars would help.

10. Removing corrupt public officials at all levels would help.

412 posted on 05/09/2006 9:39:09 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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