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To: freepatriot32; Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; ...
"Today we are told we must choose between a left and right or, as others suggest, a third alternative, a kind of safe middle ground. I suggest to you there is no left or right, only an up or down. Up to the maximum of individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism; and regardless of their humanitarian purpose those who would sacrifice freedom for security have, whether they know it or not, chosen this downward path." Ronald Reagan





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225 posted on 05/10/2006 6:33:10 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: traviskicks

It must be the same tendency that causes a five-year-old to poke a stick into a red ant mound.

Of course libertarianism is the same a liberalism, read Hayek if you don't believe it. However, simply because American socialists expropriated the word doesn't change its meaning. A liberal society is one that believes in competition as the best economic system and believes that the governed must give their consent for the state to use its coercive powers in all cases. Classical liberals also believe that laissez-faire utopianism is the road to anarchy. They believe a moral society is the only way to keep the tyranny of government at bay.

Once again invoking Hayek, conservatives seek to maintain the status quo. The current status quo is rampant socialism tending toward national socialism and has resulted in the rise of the so-called "neo-cons." To call one's self a conservative today means that one supports socialized medicine, welfare state rights for illegal immigrants, soviet-style international adventurism, and runaway deficit spending by an ever more fascist government. Given that, I'll take the liberal label any day.


226 posted on 05/10/2006 7:03:36 AM PDT by NCSteve
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