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The CFR and the Trilateral Commission - The two organizations that run the United States
unknown | Melvin Sickler

Posted on 05/02/2006 11:55:13 AM PDT by Marxbites

The Council on Foreign Relations And the Trilateral Commission - The two organizations that run the United States

There are two groups of elite men and women in particular that most American people do not know about, but which are a clear threat and danger to the freedom of the American people. These are the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission.

Right now the United States is completely under the control of those who run these two organizations (David Rockefeller in particular). It is therefore important to understand these organizations if we wish to understand what has been taking place in the United States since the early 1900’s.

The resource material I am using that explains in depth what these two organizations are all about was written by Jack Newell and Devvy Kidd ("Why A Bankrupt America?", Project Liberty, P.O. Box 741075, Arvada, CO 80006-9075). Please allow me to share the main ideas with you.

Edward Mandell House The Council on Foreign Relations was founded in 1921 by Edward Mandell House, who had been the chief advisor of President Woodrow Wilson. Actually, he was more than just a prominent aide of the President; he dominated the President. He was referred to as Wilson’s "alter ego" (other self), and was credited for being the most powerful individual in the United States during the Wilson Administration from 1913 until 1921.

House was a Marxist whose goal was to socialize the United States. In 1912, House wrote the book "Philip Dru: Administrator" in which he stated that he was working for "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx." In this book, House laid out a plan for the conquest of America, telling how both the Democratic and Republican Parties would be controlled, and be used as instruments in the creation of a socialistic government. And he asked for the establishment of a state-controlled central bank, which were both proposed in "The Communist Manifesto".

And it was in 1913, during the very first year of the House-dominated Wilson Administration, that both of these proposals became laws. The Federal Reserve Act was passed, which brought into power a private central bank to create the money of the United States, taking this power away from the United States Congress. And the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution, the graduated income tax as proposed by Karl Marx, was also ratified.

The Council on Foreign Relations In 1921, House and his friends formed the Council on Foreign Relations whose purpose right from its conception was to destroy the freedom and independence of the United States, and to lead the country into a one-world government.

Right from its beginning, in 1921, the CFR began to attract men of power and influence. In the late 1920’s, important financing for the CFR came from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. In 1940, at the invitation of President Roosevelt, members of the CFR gained domination over the State Department, and they have maintained this domination ever since. Its intentions The late Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton’s mentor), Professor of History at Georgetown University, member of the CFR, stated in his book, "Tragedy & Hope":

"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."

Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the CFR for 16 years, warned the American people of the organization’s intentions:

"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."

And Dan Smoot, a former member of the FBI Headquarters staff in Washington, D.C., summarized the organization’s purpose as follows:

"The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."

In other words, the CFR’s activities are treasonous to the U.S. Constitution. Their goal is to put an end to the United States of America, and to make the country a part of their global government scheme.

Its influence In 1944 and in 1948, the Republican candidate for President, Thomas Dewey, was a CFR member. In later years, Republicans Eisenhower and Nixon were members of the CFR, as were Democrats Stevenson, Kennedy, Humphrey, and McGovern. (Note: We believe Kennedy became disloyal to the CFR prior to his assassination.") The American people think that they have a choice when they vote for a President, but the truth of the matter is, with few exceptions: Presidential candidates for decades have been CFR members.

In one of the CFR’s annual reports, published in 1978, it listed a membership of 1878 members. Eleven of its members at this time were United States Senators, with even more Congressmen belonging to the organization. 284 of its members listed in this report were United States Government officials. And the Chairman of the Board of this immensely powerful pyramid was stated as being none other than David Rockefeller himself.

The CFR not only has its members in the United States Government, but its influence has also spread to other vital areas of American life. According to Newell:

"Its members have run, or are running, NBC and CBS, ‘The New York Times’, ‘The Washington Post’, ‘The Des Moines Register’, and many other important newspapers. The leaders of ‘Time’, ‘Newsweek’, ‘Fortune’, ‘Business Week’, and numerous other publications are CFR members. The organization’s members also dominate the academic world, top corporations, the huge tax-exempt foundations, labor unions, the military, and just about every segment of American life."

Barry Goldwater states in his book, "With No Apologies", on page 231:

"Does it not seem strange to you that these men just happened to be CFR and just happened to be on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, that absolutely controls the money and interest rates of this great country without benefit of Congress? A privately owned organization, the Federal Reserve, which has absolutely nothing to do with the United States of America!"

And Newell continues to write:

"Not every member of the CFR is fully committed to carrying out Edward Mandell House’s conspiratorial plan. Many have been flattered by an invitation to join a study group, which is what the CFR calls itself. Others go along because of personal benefits, such as a nice job and a new importance. But all are used to promote the destruction of U.S. sovereignty."

All aspects of American life are dominated The members of the CFR dominate almost every aspect of American life, yet most Americans have never even heard of the Council on Foreign Relations. One reason for this is probably because there are over 170 journalists, correspondents, and communications executives who are members of the CFR, and who do not write about the organization. Also, it is an express condition of membership that no one is to disclose what goes on at CFR meetings.

Congressmen John R. Rarick had warned:

"The CFR, dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media, should be familiar to every American concerned with good government, and with preserving and defending the U.S. Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media, usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities. “

"The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitution Republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship."

The CFR now has its main headquarters at the corner of Park Avenue and 68th Street in New York City, in a building given to the organization by the Rockefeller family in 1929. Its main goal is still to create a one-world government by destroying the freedom and independence of all nations, especially the United States. And David Rockefeller continues to be its Chairman of the Board.

The Trilateral Commission Unfortunately, the Council on Foreign Relations is not the only group proposing an end to the sovereignty of the United States. In 1973, The Trilateral Commission was founded to work for the same goal: a one-world government.

The Trilateral Commission's roots stem from the book, "Between Two Ages", written by Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1970. In this book, Brzezinski praised Marxism, thought of the United States as obsolete, and praised the formation of a one-world government. His thinking closely parallels that of CFR founder Edward Mandell House.

Marxism On page 72, Brzezinski writes: "Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."

On page 83, he states: "Marxism disseminated on the popular level in the form of Communism, represented a major advance in man's ability to conceptualize his relationship to his world."

On page 123, we find: "Marxism supplied the best available insight into contemporary reality."

What Mr. Brzezinski fails to tell his readers is that approximately 100 million human beings have been murdered under Marxism "in the form of Communism" just in this Twentieth Century. It has enslaved a billion more, and has been responsible for those who live in Communist-dominated countries. There is nothing like being brainwashed!

For world government Zbigniew Brzezinski's "Between Two Ages" was published in 1970 while he was a professor in New York City. David Rockefeller read the book and, in 1973, launched the new Trilateral Commission, whose purposes include linking North America, Western Europe, and Japan

"in their economic relations, their political and defense relations, their relations with developing countries, and their relations with Communist countries."

As Newell writes:

"The original literature of The Trilateral Commission also states, exactly as Brzezinski's book had proposed, that the more advanced Communist States could become partners in the alliance leading to world government. In short, David Rockefeller implemented Brzezinski's proposal."

Rockefeller appointed Zbigniew Brzezinski to be the Director of The Trilateral Commission.

Jimmy Carter In 1973, Jimmy Carter became a student of Brzezinski, and a founding member of the Trilateral Commission. On March 21, 1978, "The New York Times" featured an article about Zbigniew Brzezinski's close relationship with the President. In part, it reads:

"The two men met for the first time four years ago when Mr. Brzezinski was executive director of The Trilateral Commission… and had the foresight to ask the then obscure former Governor of Georgia to join its distinguished ranks. Their initial teacher-student relationship blossomed during the campaign, and appears to have grown closer still."

To think that the teacher in this relationship praised Marxism, and wanted to form a one-world government. And the student was to become the President of the United States. During the 1976 political campaign, Carter repeatedly told the nation that he was going to get rid of the Establishment Insiders if he became president. But when he took office, he promptly filled his Administration with members of the Council on Foreign Relations (284 to be exact) and The Trilateral Commission, the two most prominent insider organizations in America. Included in this list of members of The Trilateral Commission were Walter Mondale and Dr. Henry Kissinger.

Beginning with Jimmy Carter, all the recent presidents, including President Clinton, have promptly filled their administrations with members of the Council on Foreign relations and The Trilateral Commission.

The Effects The common everyday American citizen does not need to be told that there is a controlled government running the United States. But when we understand exactly what the Council on Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commission are, and how its members hold key positions in the Government, it becomes all the more clear. As Newell writes:

"The effects of the Council on Foreign Relation and The Trilateral Commission on the affairs of our nation is easy to see. Our own Government no longer acts in its own interest, we no longer win any wars we fight, and we constantly tie ourselves to international agreements, pacts, and conventions. And, our leaders have developed blatant preferences for Communist U.S.S.R., Communist Cuba, and Communist China, while they continue to work for world government, which has always been the goal of Communism…”

"The real goal of our own Government’s leaders is to make the United States into a carbon copy of a Communist state, and then to merge all nations into a one-world system run by a powerful few."

Barry Goldwater once stated on this subject:

"The Trilateral Commission is international, and it is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power – political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."

As with the CFR, not all the members of The Trilateral Commission are fully committed to the destruction of the United States. Some just go along for the ride, to obtain fame, comfortable living, and constant flattery. But some, of course, really do run things and some, of course, really do run things and work against the independence of the United States.

In conclusion The American people may think that they live in a free country when, in reality, things could not be more controlled. The American public must be made aware of what is really taking place in the united States.

The key to obtain our freedom, to have a true independence, is to free ourselves from the yoke of International Finance. How true it is to state that those who control the money of a country control everything in that country.

Every citizen of the United States should become informed about these inside organizations, and make it a point not to vote nor to promote those, who are members for these organizations. And to demand a reform of the financial laws of the country, especially to repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and to implement the philosophy of Social Credit into the laws of the country.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; cfr; communism; communists; globalism; globalists; iran; iraq; israel; jbsthinksyourenuts; marxism; rockefeller; socialism; socialists; tinfoil; trilateralcommission
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To: Marxbites

It’s not clear from the video why Jones is being arrested because he's not visible during the important moments. And how can I take it seriously with the music and effects?


141 posted on 05/05/2006 6:08:39 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftists will never stand up like men and fight for their true beliefs.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I don't know that you can.

But it looked to me that they removed him for asking a question we never hear asked, much less answered.


142 posted on 05/07/2006 4:10:29 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites

That's a huge assumption, because you can't see him when he's first approached by the men who take him out.

I don't know much about Alex Jones. I'll have to find out more about him before I'm convinced he's not a Marxist/anarchist himself or simply a snake-oil salesman.

One of these anti-Semitic lunatics maybe?


143 posted on 05/08/2006 7:29:05 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftists will never stand up like men and fight for their true beliefs.)
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To: gondramB
"Well, some conservatives would call Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton marxists but I've known real marxists - there is a world of difference."

No there is not! You just do know know Carter or Clinton.

Incrementalists vs Immediatalists.
144 posted on 05/08/2006 7:32:22 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: reasonisfaith

I think anarchy is a whole lot closer to what the founder's handed over to Americans than the socialism/fascism/corporatism progressives won for themselves via the FDR court's judicial fiat for congress to spend on what IT sees fit, including the non-general.

Now had he asked just the question, and waited for the answer, he may not have been whisked away so fast.

I don't know of Alex Jones either, a friend just thought it interesting, as did I. The seemingly innocuous questions re: the Fed and CFR power over Americans, appeared to have hit a nerve.


145 posted on 05/09/2006 7:12:16 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: jwh_Denver

I guess you didn't know that the Bircher's were a just a straw man front group.

I suggest you try and envision the broader picture you might develope from some of these.

Try these great written, video & wav lectures too.

How Progressives Rewrote the Constitution
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-15-06.ram

Secrets of the Federal Reserve
http://www.barefootsworld.net/fs_m_ch_01.html

Size Matters: How Big Government Puts the Squeeze on America's Families, Finances, and Freedom (And Limits the Pursuit of Happiness)
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-02-06.ram

The Founding of The Federal Reserve (video)
http://mises.org:88/Rothbard-Fed

The Issue of Tariffs: How U.S. Revenue Collection Was Turned Inside-Out (video)
http://mises.org:88/Sophocleus

The Great Depression, World War II, and American Prosperity, Part I (video)
http://www.mises.org/multimedia/video/Woods/Woods5.wmv

Big Business and the Rise of American Statism
http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm

These all pretty well put the lie on most all the progressive myths perpetuated by pro big gov self interested educrats & MSM for the last 100years of their commie-esque propaganda.


146 posted on 05/29/2006 11:33:37 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Ah yes! Powerful organizations that are completely unstoppable. Enjoying the most sophisticated conspiracy technology and unlimited resources they have so far been able to take over....

Nothing!

So either they are the most incompetant people in the world or there is not a conspiracy. Either way, I'm not worried.

147 posted on 05/29/2006 11:40:44 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yes, do not trouble yourself that nearly all presidents (ex-RWR) and their entire cabinets have been CFR or TriLat members.

If putting into the world's most powerful positions by the world's financial/industrial and political elites isn't any accomplishment why do they spend billions of their tax sheltered cash to do so? We're more "Boss Tweed" than Boss Tweed.

I've got a $50 here that says one becomes our next president too. Unless we get another non-CFR RWR that is, then the loss is still my gain. Got the cahones to match it?

Be secure that Goldwater & Ike must have been delusional liars for calling them out as the enemy within.


148 posted on 05/29/2006 12:23:16 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
I've got a $50 here that says one becomes our next president too. Unless we get another non-CFR RWR that is, then the loss is still my gain. Got the cahones to match it?

That's like betting your next Doctor is part of the AMA. The CFR is the prestigous foreign policy think tank. I would have reservations about anyone who wasn't attached to them honestly, because I want my President to know the best people when it comes to foreign policy.

149 posted on 05/29/2006 12:37:32 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The "best" people?

You surely must mean the wealthiest and most powerful?

Your confidence in the CFR being some kind of positive pre-req is utterly naive. They back BOTH canidates, just as they backed Taft, Wilson & TR in the same race.

As I said, were Ike and Goldwater "full of it" or what?

I believe they knew the score more than you do, just MHO.


150 posted on 05/29/2006 12:48:20 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

BTW, I want MY president to work to relimit Govt and restore the constitution to it's intended principles.

The principles that constitutionally preclude such as:

The ICC, SS, the inflationary fiat currency Fed, public schools and their propagandists against competition but for their own protectionism, unratified income/&graduated taxation, Corporate subsidy, Foreign Aid, and all other entilements or spending on special interests, that had before been unconstitional our 1st 100 years precisely because it did not meet the definition of the GENERAL welfare, as does a battleship that benefits ALL citizens equally.

Those above are the policies American elite politicians & intellectuals witnessed, envied, parroted, then copied from the Euro-dictators whose power they sought to co-opt from Govt for themselves too as the collectivist creed swirled the globe. Elites saw themselves as the scientific vanguard able to plan economies and societies for "the common good" better than individuals freely working towards their own best interests as the Founders intended. They've usurped our Govt for their own devices. It's very size, corruptness and intrusiveness is the irrefuttable evidence.

Here's a good start to greater understanding beyond the self interested tripe fed America's students for the last 100 years.

How Progressives Rewrote the Constitution
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-15-06.ram

Secrets of the Federal Reserve
http://www.barefootsworld.net/fs_m_ch_01.html

Size Matters: How Big Government Puts the Squeeze on America's Families, Finances, and Freedom (And Limits the Pursuit of Happiness)
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-02-06.ram

The Founding of The Federal Reserve (video)
http://mises.org:88/Rothbard-Fed

The Issue of Tariffs: How U.S. Revenue Collection Was Turned Inside-Out (video)
http://mises.org:88/Sophocleus

The Great Depression, World War II, and American Prosperity, Part I (video)
http://www.mises.org/multimedia/video/Woods/Woods5.wmv

Big Business and the Rise of American Statism
http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm


151 posted on 05/29/2006 1:39:28 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites; Anitius Severinus Boethius
They back BOTH canidates, just as they backed Taft, Wilson & TR in the same race.

Your silly is showing again. If the CFR backs both candidates, of course their guy will be elected. I could support both candidates, that wouldn't make me an all powerful force. LOL!

Why don't you prove your point, tell us who the CFR has picked to win in 2008. Better yet, tell us who the Dem and Republican primary winners will be.

152 posted on 05/30/2006 5:59:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Tell me what is silly about any of it.

I suggest you read the cfr's own history on their site. And remember the Japanese were making overtones of surrender BEFORE Hiroshima. They claim they were instrumental in the war effort. Instrumental in steering policy for their CEO membership's lucrative war production.

The CFR is already behind Biden in case you missed it, but they'll find a Rep member to back as well like they always do. The only exception since WWII was RWR, but his cabinet(advisors) was flush with them too.


153 posted on 05/30/2006 8:34:44 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Tell me what is silly about any of it.

If the CFR backs both candidates, or all 3 candidates, how does that make them the all powerful kingmakers you imagine them to be? I don't suppose you have proof they backed all the candidates in a recent race? Like a Rothbard video? Less than 90 minutes if you could.

I suggest you read the cfr's own history on their site.

And allow them to trace me thru my ISP? What, are you crazy?

And remember the Japanese were making overtones of surrender BEFORE Hiroshima.

So? Are you saying Truman didn't want to drop the bomb but the CFR made him drop it?

They claim they were instrumental in the war effort. Instrumental in steering policy for their CEO membership's lucrative war production.

Ohmigod, are you saying rich businessmen made money off of war business? Alert the media. Next thing you'll be telling me that only rich bankers were involved in the creation of the Federal Reserve!! Hehe.

The CFR is already behind Biden in case you missed it, but they'll find a Rep member to back as well like they always do.

Wow, Biden. Proof that the CFR is truly evil! Wake me up if Biden wins more than his home state primary.

154 posted on 05/30/2006 8:43:46 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Don't learn from history then - that is your right.

You are obviously snug in your own caccoon, so stay there.

Barry Goldwater, RWR, Tom Coburn, & Ron Paul are all crackpots to be ignored by today's big govt conservatives.

//If the CFR backs both candidates, or all 3 candidates, how does that make them the all powerful kingmakers you imagine them to be? I don't suppose you have proof they backed all the candidates in a recent race?//

Ah, duh, because they get their policies pushed by those who they select and support. In fact Kerry & W are CFR or Trilats both. Clinton for sure and probably Dole too.

It is also absolute fact that the CFR's founder Col House, financed by Rockefeller, was a Marxist. In fact House wrote a book in which the main character becomes the veritable benevolent dictator in "Philip Dru, Administrator". They all saw in Europe just how well socialism as a tool works to concentrate power in Govt, which they envied and copied here. Most all the New Deal policies, and Hoover's pre-New Deal, were straight from the commie manifesto; SS, graduated taxes, public education, crony corp subsidy, union privilege, and on and on.

Here's a good site of quotes. See how many Adams', Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Freidman, Smith, and the quotes of others whose ideas I totally agree with, that you can find fault with too? For if I'm FOS for believing them, they must be too.

http://www.neoperspectives.com/quotes.htm


155 posted on 05/30/2006 10:08:14 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Don't learn from history then - that is your right. You are obviously snug in your own caccoon, so stay there.

Still waiting for you to post some non-tinfoiler history.

Barry Goldwater, RWR, Tom Coburn, & Ron Paul are all crackpots to be ignored by today's big govt conservatives.

What do they have to do with your "Ohmigod, rich bankers are involved in banking" B.S.?

Ah, duh, because they get their policies pushed by those who they select and support.

Yeah, I'll believe it when the CFR pulls Biden into the Presidency.

It is also absolute fact that the CFR's founder Col House, financed by Rockefeller, was a Marxist. In fact House wrote a book in which the main character becomes the veritable benevolent dictator in "Philip Dru, Administrator".

That proves it. How could I have doubted you? Tell me again how the British tricked us into WW I. Did the CFR get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor? You know, to trick us into WW II. So the rich bankers could make money.

See how many Adams', Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Freidman, Smith, and the quotes of others whose ideas I totally agree with, that you can find fault with too?

You mean they weren't in the CFR? Or Freemasons? Or Bilderbergers? That's a relief!

For if I'm FOS for believing them, they must be too.

The fact that you're FOS has nothing to do with Adams, Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Friedman, or Smith.

156 posted on 05/30/2006 10:21:24 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What do they have to do with your "Ohmigod, rich bankers are involved in banking" B.S.?

They all have identified it as the problem it is, but which you refuse to actually learn about, as do leftists married to their Marxist ideology.

Ronald Reagan
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.


157 posted on 05/30/2006 10:36:03 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That proves it. How could I have doubted you? Tell me again how the British tricked us into WW I. Did the CFR get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor? You know, to trick us into WW II. So the rich bankers could make money.

Indeed. This is the common thread agreed on by America's best revisionist historians to end the myths of, for instance, FDR's greatness and his legion of economic failures cum usurpers of liberty and concentrators of power in Govt.

Do they even have tinfoil on your planet?


158 posted on 05/30/2006 10:41:55 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
This is the common thread agreed on by America's best revisionist historians

Huh? So the CFR did get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor?

to end the myths of, for instance, FDR's greatness and his legion of economic failures cum usurpers of liberty and concentrators of power in Govt.

The fact that FDR was a power hungry, awful peacetime President in no way proves that the rest of your conspiracy B.S. is true.

Do they even have tinfoil on your planet?

If you're still on Earth wearing it, then yes.

159 posted on 05/30/2006 10:48:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But you can't be from earth - you didn't know FDR held from Pearl's command the intercept that an attack was imminent.

Wilson campaigned on keeping us out of the war, his handlers saw otherwise. Read "Wilson's War" for youself.

Read the freakin CFR's own history on their site on their war efforts in their own words why don't you? I have.


160 posted on 05/30/2006 11:16:33 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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