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The CFR and the Trilateral Commission - The two organizations that run the United States
unknown | Melvin Sickler

Posted on 05/02/2006 11:55:13 AM PDT by Marxbites

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To: Marxbites

It’s not clear from the video why Jones is being arrested because he's not visible during the important moments. And how can I take it seriously with the music and effects?


141 posted on 05/05/2006 6:08:39 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftists will never stand up like men and fight for their true beliefs.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I don't know that you can.

But it looked to me that they removed him for asking a question we never hear asked, much less answered.


142 posted on 05/07/2006 4:10:29 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites

That's a huge assumption, because you can't see him when he's first approached by the men who take him out.

I don't know much about Alex Jones. I'll have to find out more about him before I'm convinced he's not a Marxist/anarchist himself or simply a snake-oil salesman.

One of these anti-Semitic lunatics maybe?


143 posted on 05/08/2006 7:29:05 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Leftists will never stand up like men and fight for their true beliefs.)
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To: gondramB
"Well, some conservatives would call Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton marxists but I've known real marxists - there is a world of difference."

No there is not! You just do know know Carter or Clinton.

Incrementalists vs Immediatalists.
144 posted on 05/08/2006 7:32:22 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: reasonisfaith

I think anarchy is a whole lot closer to what the founder's handed over to Americans than the socialism/fascism/corporatism progressives won for themselves via the FDR court's judicial fiat for congress to spend on what IT sees fit, including the non-general.

Now had he asked just the question, and waited for the answer, he may not have been whisked away so fast.

I don't know of Alex Jones either, a friend just thought it interesting, as did I. The seemingly innocuous questions re: the Fed and CFR power over Americans, appeared to have hit a nerve.


145 posted on 05/09/2006 7:12:16 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: jwh_Denver

I guess you didn't know that the Bircher's were a just a straw man front group.

I suggest you try and envision the broader picture you might develope from some of these.

Try these great written, video & wav lectures too.

How Progressives Rewrote the Constitution
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-15-06.ram

Secrets of the Federal Reserve
http://www.barefootsworld.net/fs_m_ch_01.html

Size Matters: How Big Government Puts the Squeeze on America's Families, Finances, and Freedom (And Limits the Pursuit of Happiness)
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-02-06.ram

The Founding of The Federal Reserve (video)
http://mises.org:88/Rothbard-Fed

The Issue of Tariffs: How U.S. Revenue Collection Was Turned Inside-Out (video)
http://mises.org:88/Sophocleus

The Great Depression, World War II, and American Prosperity, Part I (video)
http://www.mises.org/multimedia/video/Woods/Woods5.wmv

Big Business and the Rise of American Statism
http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm

These all pretty well put the lie on most all the progressive myths perpetuated by pro big gov self interested educrats & MSM for the last 100years of their commie-esque propaganda.


146 posted on 05/29/2006 11:33:37 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Ah yes! Powerful organizations that are completely unstoppable. Enjoying the most sophisticated conspiracy technology and unlimited resources they have so far been able to take over....

Nothing!

So either they are the most incompetant people in the world or there is not a conspiracy. Either way, I'm not worried.

147 posted on 05/29/2006 11:40:44 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yes, do not trouble yourself that nearly all presidents (ex-RWR) and their entire cabinets have been CFR or TriLat members.

If putting into the world's most powerful positions by the world's financial/industrial and political elites isn't any accomplishment why do they spend billions of their tax sheltered cash to do so? We're more "Boss Tweed" than Boss Tweed.

I've got a $50 here that says one becomes our next president too. Unless we get another non-CFR RWR that is, then the loss is still my gain. Got the cahones to match it?

Be secure that Goldwater & Ike must have been delusional liars for calling them out as the enemy within.


148 posted on 05/29/2006 12:23:16 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
I've got a $50 here that says one becomes our next president too. Unless we get another non-CFR RWR that is, then the loss is still my gain. Got the cahones to match it?

That's like betting your next Doctor is part of the AMA. The CFR is the prestigous foreign policy think tank. I would have reservations about anyone who wasn't attached to them honestly, because I want my President to know the best people when it comes to foreign policy.

149 posted on 05/29/2006 12:37:32 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The "best" people?

You surely must mean the wealthiest and most powerful?

Your confidence in the CFR being some kind of positive pre-req is utterly naive. They back BOTH canidates, just as they backed Taft, Wilson & TR in the same race.

As I said, were Ike and Goldwater "full of it" or what?

I believe they knew the score more than you do, just MHO.


150 posted on 05/29/2006 12:48:20 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

BTW, I want MY president to work to relimit Govt and restore the constitution to it's intended principles.

The principles that constitutionally preclude such as:

The ICC, SS, the inflationary fiat currency Fed, public schools and their propagandists against competition but for their own protectionism, unratified income/&graduated taxation, Corporate subsidy, Foreign Aid, and all other entilements or spending on special interests, that had before been unconstitional our 1st 100 years precisely because it did not meet the definition of the GENERAL welfare, as does a battleship that benefits ALL citizens equally.

Those above are the policies American elite politicians & intellectuals witnessed, envied, parroted, then copied from the Euro-dictators whose power they sought to co-opt from Govt for themselves too as the collectivist creed swirled the globe. Elites saw themselves as the scientific vanguard able to plan economies and societies for "the common good" better than individuals freely working towards their own best interests as the Founders intended. They've usurped our Govt for their own devices. It's very size, corruptness and intrusiveness is the irrefuttable evidence.

Here's a good start to greater understanding beyond the self interested tripe fed America's students for the last 100 years.

How Progressives Rewrote the Constitution
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-15-06.ram

Secrets of the Federal Reserve
http://www.barefootsworld.net/fs_m_ch_01.html

Size Matters: How Big Government Puts the Squeeze on America's Families, Finances, and Freedom (And Limits the Pursuit of Happiness)
http://www.cato.org/realaudio/cbf-02-02-06.ram

The Founding of The Federal Reserve (video)
http://mises.org:88/Rothbard-Fed

The Issue of Tariffs: How U.S. Revenue Collection Was Turned Inside-Out (video)
http://mises.org:88/Sophocleus

The Great Depression, World War II, and American Prosperity, Part I (video)
http://www.mises.org/multimedia/video/Woods/Woods5.wmv

Big Business and the Rise of American Statism
http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm


151 posted on 05/29/2006 1:39:28 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites; Anitius Severinus Boethius
They back BOTH canidates, just as they backed Taft, Wilson & TR in the same race.

Your silly is showing again. If the CFR backs both candidates, of course their guy will be elected. I could support both candidates, that wouldn't make me an all powerful force. LOL!

Why don't you prove your point, tell us who the CFR has picked to win in 2008. Better yet, tell us who the Dem and Republican primary winners will be.

152 posted on 05/30/2006 5:59:17 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Tell me what is silly about any of it.

I suggest you read the cfr's own history on their site. And remember the Japanese were making overtones of surrender BEFORE Hiroshima. They claim they were instrumental in the war effort. Instrumental in steering policy for their CEO membership's lucrative war production.

The CFR is already behind Biden in case you missed it, but they'll find a Rep member to back as well like they always do. The only exception since WWII was RWR, but his cabinet(advisors) was flush with them too.


153 posted on 05/30/2006 8:34:44 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Tell me what is silly about any of it.

If the CFR backs both candidates, or all 3 candidates, how does that make them the all powerful kingmakers you imagine them to be? I don't suppose you have proof they backed all the candidates in a recent race? Like a Rothbard video? Less than 90 minutes if you could.

I suggest you read the cfr's own history on their site.

And allow them to trace me thru my ISP? What, are you crazy?

And remember the Japanese were making overtones of surrender BEFORE Hiroshima.

So? Are you saying Truman didn't want to drop the bomb but the CFR made him drop it?

They claim they were instrumental in the war effort. Instrumental in steering policy for their CEO membership's lucrative war production.

Ohmigod, are you saying rich businessmen made money off of war business? Alert the media. Next thing you'll be telling me that only rich bankers were involved in the creation of the Federal Reserve!! Hehe.

The CFR is already behind Biden in case you missed it, but they'll find a Rep member to back as well like they always do.

Wow, Biden. Proof that the CFR is truly evil! Wake me up if Biden wins more than his home state primary.

154 posted on 05/30/2006 8:43:46 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Don't learn from history then - that is your right.

You are obviously snug in your own caccoon, so stay there.

Barry Goldwater, RWR, Tom Coburn, & Ron Paul are all crackpots to be ignored by today's big govt conservatives.

//If the CFR backs both candidates, or all 3 candidates, how does that make them the all powerful kingmakers you imagine them to be? I don't suppose you have proof they backed all the candidates in a recent race?//

Ah, duh, because they get their policies pushed by those who they select and support. In fact Kerry & W are CFR or Trilats both. Clinton for sure and probably Dole too.

It is also absolute fact that the CFR's founder Col House, financed by Rockefeller, was a Marxist. In fact House wrote a book in which the main character becomes the veritable benevolent dictator in "Philip Dru, Administrator". They all saw in Europe just how well socialism as a tool works to concentrate power in Govt, which they envied and copied here. Most all the New Deal policies, and Hoover's pre-New Deal, were straight from the commie manifesto; SS, graduated taxes, public education, crony corp subsidy, union privilege, and on and on.

Here's a good site of quotes. See how many Adams', Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Freidman, Smith, and the quotes of others whose ideas I totally agree with, that you can find fault with too? For if I'm FOS for believing them, they must be too.

http://www.neoperspectives.com/quotes.htm


155 posted on 05/30/2006 10:08:14 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Don't learn from history then - that is your right. You are obviously snug in your own caccoon, so stay there.

Still waiting for you to post some non-tinfoiler history.

Barry Goldwater, RWR, Tom Coburn, & Ron Paul are all crackpots to be ignored by today's big govt conservatives.

What do they have to do with your "Ohmigod, rich bankers are involved in banking" B.S.?

Ah, duh, because they get their policies pushed by those who they select and support.

Yeah, I'll believe it when the CFR pulls Biden into the Presidency.

It is also absolute fact that the CFR's founder Col House, financed by Rockefeller, was a Marxist. In fact House wrote a book in which the main character becomes the veritable benevolent dictator in "Philip Dru, Administrator".

That proves it. How could I have doubted you? Tell me again how the British tricked us into WW I. Did the CFR get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor? You know, to trick us into WW II. So the rich bankers could make money.

See how many Adams', Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Freidman, Smith, and the quotes of others whose ideas I totally agree with, that you can find fault with too?

You mean they weren't in the CFR? Or Freemasons? Or Bilderbergers? That's a relief!

For if I'm FOS for believing them, they must be too.

The fact that you're FOS has nothing to do with Adams, Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Friedman, or Smith.

156 posted on 05/30/2006 10:21:24 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What do they have to do with your "Ohmigod, rich bankers are involved in banking" B.S.?

They all have identified it as the problem it is, but which you refuse to actually learn about, as do leftists married to their Marxist ideology.

Ronald Reagan
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.


157 posted on 05/30/2006 10:36:03 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That proves it. How could I have doubted you? Tell me again how the British tricked us into WW I. Did the CFR get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor? You know, to trick us into WW II. So the rich bankers could make money.

Indeed. This is the common thread agreed on by America's best revisionist historians to end the myths of, for instance, FDR's greatness and his legion of economic failures cum usurpers of liberty and concentrators of power in Govt.

Do they even have tinfoil on your planet?


158 posted on 05/30/2006 10:41:55 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
This is the common thread agreed on by America's best revisionist historians

Huh? So the CFR did get the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor?

to end the myths of, for instance, FDR's greatness and his legion of economic failures cum usurpers of liberty and concentrators of power in Govt.

The fact that FDR was a power hungry, awful peacetime President in no way proves that the rest of your conspiracy B.S. is true.

Do they even have tinfoil on your planet?

If you're still on Earth wearing it, then yes.

159 posted on 05/30/2006 10:48:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But you can't be from earth - you didn't know FDR held from Pearl's command the intercept that an attack was imminent.

Wilson campaigned on keeping us out of the war, his handlers saw otherwise. Read "Wilson's War" for youself.

Read the freakin CFR's own history on their site on their war efforts in their own words why don't you? I have.


160 posted on 05/30/2006 11:16:33 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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