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It's ROb Enderle, so take him for what he's worth.....
1 posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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take him for what he's worth.....

Which is approximately zero point zero.

At least he quit putting "beleaguered" in front of Apple every time...

3 posted on 05/02/2006 5:54:39 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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This OS [Leopard] was largely modeled after what Vista was going to be.

LOL!

Yeah, there's Apple, copying Microsoft's ideas, again.

5 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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There was little mention of the Mac OS at the conference

Gee, a "Linspire-sponsored" conference to talk about ways to run Windows apps on Linux, I wonder why they didn't mention Macs much.

7 posted on 05/02/2006 6:00:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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IB4GE


8 posted on 05/02/2006 6:01:42 AM PDT by twntaipan (John McCain: Your 15 minutes of fame were up long, long ago.)
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...but if what I'm reading is right, [Leopard] too has run into problems and won't show up until late 2007.

I haven't heard this from any other source.

9 posted on 05/02/2006 6:02:18 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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There was also a lot of discussion about what Linux should become, with some of the most interesting commentary coming from Geoffrey Moore, author of "Crossing the Chasm," who was right on in stating that Linux is going in the wrong direction with respect to the desktop.

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Moore pointed out that things move slowly and that a good place to look for ideas for future products is among kids and young people -- and what they are currently using. Today kids are using devices like cell phones and iPods, often juggling several gadgets running at once. These devices are not all-in-ones, rather they're specialized to whatever the user wants to do. In short, they're nearly the opposite of what Windows currently is. What does that mean? It means Windows might be a poor model for future products. Future products probably won't be running on anything that looks like today's Windows.

We're still waiting to learn what this guy who was "right on" about what Linux should not be to tell us what it should be.

Maybe we should all be running spreadsheets on iPods?

12 posted on 05/02/2006 6:09:00 AM PDT by B Knotts
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I've been watching Red Hat go from $10.70 to $31.00 in 12 months. What is driving it?
13 posted on 05/02/2006 6:24:02 AM PDT by tubebender (Tagline...I don't need no stinking tagline...)
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I'm using Mepis 6.0 Beta 1 right now and I'm loving it. Tomorrow Beta 2 is due to be released, add me to the Linux ping list if there is such a thing.
14 posted on 05/02/2006 6:24:24 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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Good article. Good points. Obvious points, but good ones. Each had better overcome their current market problems or else Bill's nightmare that some other company or kid will emerge with a better product might just happen.


"If Microsoft can't find a way to become agile and customer focused again it will clearly be on the long slow path that IBM blazed"


So true. Funny the author says "Agile" as that is the process MS seems to be headed internally.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 6:27:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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"It's ROb Enderle, so take him for what he's worth....."

Well, he started off pretty good, talking about the "kids today" market with multiple specialized pieces of hardware--but the thing he either didn't know, or forgot to mention, is that Linux is ALREADY a major player in providing OS's for those market segments.

But how he gets from there to Apple/Leopard is not clear.

17 posted on 05/02/2006 6:28:23 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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Future products probably won't be running on anything that looks like today's Windows.

I pretty much stopped reading right there.  How far in the future?  Who is this goofball?

Any reasonably intelligent, patient person familiar with the workings of any one of the current, top graphical OSs can walk up to any of the others and figure it out pretty easily.  They all use keyboards, mice and monitors for interfacing and thus, will all continue in the same basic functionality for the foreseeable future.

Until there are serious, serious changes and advances in hardware interfacing, the GUIs for all the graphical OSs will share the same basic functionality and continue to essentially look like they do.

21 posted on 05/02/2006 6:41:27 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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Recall that Microsoft not only didn't initially target IBM as a competitor but partnered with it in order to gain faster entry into the market.

Thats' a really strange way of describing that history.

25 posted on 05/02/2006 6:49:22 AM PDT by Tribune7
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Enderle is considered the most uninformed pundit in the business. Last year, he wrote that Microsoft was the original designer of the Mac.

No one seems to talk much about Apple Leopard, the next version of the Mac OS. This is primarily because Apple, unlike Microsoft, is not talking about this next generation platform publicly. Based on comments by Apple chief Steve Jobs it was slated to roll out about the same time as Vista originally was, but if what I'm reading is right, it too has run into problems and won't show up until late 2007. This OS was largely modeled after what Vista was going to be.

Enderle lies without compunction. There are no reports that Leopard has run into trouble. As usual, Apple will demonstrate some of Leopard's features at the WWDC developer's conference this summer. Apple is in a strong position to release Leopard when the market conditions are ideal - which will be just before Vista is released.

If Apple can't at least double its small share during this unique event it should abandon the Mac OS as a dead end, because this kind of opportunity will never come again.

Apple will continue to focus on quality and profitability. Marketshare is a secondary consideration, but Apple has increased about one percent over the last year, and continues to have about ten times more users than Linux.

Apple will not abandon the Mac OS X platform. Linux will not abandon Linux. Microsoft has already abandoned Longhorn once.

38 posted on 05/02/2006 7:39:17 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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Windows clearly dominates desktop numbers currently, but as the article states the delay with Vista could give others a unique shot to gain share. Apple probably will, but I don't see much gain for Linux. Too few drivers and applications, and too many different versions including incompatible desktop shells.


45 posted on 05/02/2006 9:59:25 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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Tech BUMP - for read later


65 posted on 05/02/2006 1:36:06 PM PDT by Texans
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We have 9 computers in my home on a 48 port network.

I think XP will be my last MS OS.

It is a virtual part time job keeping everything updated, patched and mal/spy-ware free.

This just isn't worth it.

I downloaded Ubuntu to may laptop on a dual boot as a test. It was a real eye opener.

It was remarkably easy.  All hardware was detected, drivers installed and I was off and surfing in 30 minutes while playing music off my server.

If this is a peek at the future of Linux it is a rosy picture indeed.

I have since installed it on several other machines with equal sucess.

If someone can suggest a better Linux flavor I am all ears.  It needs to be free, period, easy to use, user friendly and with excellent driver support.

One bonus I have found is that it runs on boxes with much less horsepower than a MS box and I am able to recycle some older PCs as appliances.

Like the one I am typing on in my garage right now.

Cheers,

knewshound

Coming soon to a City near you !
69 posted on 05/02/2006 4:45:14 PM PDT by knews_hound (When Blogs are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Blogs.)
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I don't know if Apple would abaondon the computer industry. If anything, if Mac OS X fails to gain ground, I figure Apple would just drop all support of OS X in favor of Windows, basically becoming just another Wintel machine but have Apple's line of productivity software (iTunes, iPhoto, iLife, Garageband, etc.) and Apple's web browser (can't recall the name at this moment) pre-installed on all Apple PCs.

I think if MS keeps screwing up like they've been doing lately, then we could see a push for either Mac OS X being ported to Wintel machines such as Dell, HP, etc.; or a wider adoption of an easy-to-use Linux distro such as Xandros, Ubuntu, or Linspire. The latter could be interesting because when Linspire announced Freespire, they also announced that CNR (Click N Run) will now be open-sourced for other distros, which means CNR can now be officially ported over to rival Linux distros such as Xandros and Ubuntu. So the rumors of CNR being ported to Ubuntu were partially true.


74 posted on 05/02/2006 6:54:14 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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Here is what desktop Linux's problem is. I installed Ubuntu Linux on an old 10gb hard drive. The only resolution I can get is 640x480. I have never figured out how to download and install anything for Linux. I can't install the nvidia driver I presume I need to get proper screen resolution. This is why Linux sucks for me. Once a year I install a Linux flavor to see what I can do. But I've never figured out downloading and installation nor gotten the proper screen resolution. I'm very good with Windows. Windows makes either of these actions very easy. Even back when I used win95 which is where I started. So I say Windows 95 was more consumer friendly than Linux 2006


140 posted on 05/03/2006 3:37:44 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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