Linux vs. Windows Vista vs. Leopard

Technology News ^ | 1 May 2006 | Rob Enderle

[Echo Talon]

should be able to, not sure how good the Mepis 3.4 is im using the Mepis 6 beta1. you can get it from distrowatch.com but like i said i'd wait for the newer version due out tomorrow(Mepis6 beta2).

[Golden Eagle]

Don't forget the preliminaries, from your link.

1. Install the lates wine,
2. Download and install firefox windows version
3. On firefox download the extension MediaPlayerConnectivity
https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...nfo.php?id=446
4. Go to the Macromedia site and install flash
5. Using your favorite editor, make file mplayer.exe and cut and paste this to it

#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/mplayer -really-quiet -nojoystick -nofs -zoom -vo xv,x11 -ao esd,alsa,oss,arts,null -osdlevel 0 $1 </dev/null

[zeugma]

Again, the troll sticks its nose in where it is unwanted.

It said:

 You were corrected on this by someone not long ago. Already forgot?

in response to what I said: 

OTOH, running dual head with either separate desktops (my personal preference) or with one desktop spanning both monitors rocks. Windows will do dual heads, but I don't think you can get dual desktops without third party tools.

The troll's reading comprehension is lacking.

The tool you recommend is a poor substitute for a real window manager. As described on microsoft's site:

Virtual Desktop Manager

Manage up to four desktops from the Windows taskbar with this PowerToy.

 As I've said previously, I regularly use 8 virtual desktops. In the dual head setup I described above, I was talking about two separate desktops running on one computer. I'm not just talking multiple virtual desktops. At the moment, my dual head setup has two desktops, that you can copy and paste across, each with 8 separate virtuals.

Do that with windows, take a picture, and get back to me troll.

[Golden Eagle]

I was responding to what you posted, not to what you now claim you were thinking.

[Texans]

Tech BUMP - for read later

[Texans]

I'm running vncserver and viewer between a windows laptop and a Ultra 20-x86 dual-booting Solaris 10 and Fedora Core 4. It's cool but have had a problem getting x2vnc (virtual viewer) to run on my Sun box, so i can manipulate my laptop...

[Echo Talon]

yea, scroll down to post #3 it should give you all you need to know for the baseball here doing that it allowed me to see the login for mlb.com thats farther than i got before using wine... only thing i didn't get sorted out was the sound.... flash 8(video) works this way with wine just did do all the stuff for the sound yet. :)

[FLAMING DEATH]

Naw, it says you can play it in native Linux by changing a simple Mplayer setting. Should be no problem...I did it in 30 seconds, don't even need to have Wine or Firefox for Windows installed.

[knews_hound]

We have 9 computers in my home on a 48 port network.

I think XP will be my last MS OS.

It is a virtual part time job keeping everything updated, patched and mal/spy-ware free.

This just isn't worth it.

I downloaded Ubuntu to may laptop on a dual boot as a test. It was a real eye opener.

It was remarkably easy.  All hardware was detected, drivers installed and I was off and surfing in 30 minutes while playing music off my server.

If this is a peek at the future of Linux it is a rosy picture indeed.

I have since installed it on several other machines with equal sucess.

If someone can suggest a better Linux flavor I am all ears.  It needs to be free, period, easy to use, user friendly and with excellent driver support.

One bonus I have found is that it runs on boxes with much less horsepower than a MS box and I am able to recycle some older PCs as appliances.

Like the one I am typing on in my garage right now.

Cheers,

knewshound

Coming soon to a City near you !

[Golden Eagle]

Sure you did. See #67.

Besides, who wants to have to tweak a bunch of crap just to watch baseball? If you want to use Linux, at least use it for something it's good at. I know that's limited, but multimedia is Linux at its worst. Did you notice how the author said Linux on the desktop may even be completely out of the picture in a few years? All it would take is a solid GUI for Solaris clients. You do know what platform runs MLB.COM don't you?

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/masthead/mlb_sun_logo.gif

[FLAMING DEATH]

"Sure you did. See #67."

Um...I got my information from the link in 67, moron.

Maybe YOU should see #67, because you apparently flew off the handle again and posted without reading. Typical of you, though.

"Besides, who wants to have to tweak a bunch of crap just to watch baseball?"

I guess copying and pasting a single line is beyond you. Regardless, I forgot...I should learn about Linux from a guy who doesn't even know what Yum or Synaptic are, rather than believing what I have experienced myself.

You're a joke. From now on, stick to all the leftist things you know something about, like your buddy Stallman for whom you advertise all the time, your UN gods that you'd love us to sell out our national autonomy to appease, and Planned Parenthood, whom you tirelessly defend.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Mepis is good too. All the software in it is not "free"; it does include some proprietary apps, such as Java, Flash, RealPlayer and Adobe Reader. Some software in MEPIS does not respect the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

But, you can still download it at no cost. It has excellent hardware detection and is one of the easiest Linuxes (Linuxi?) to use. Echo Talon has almost talked me into downloading the brand new 6.0 version, which is still in beta (apparently, it's really good).

If you want Linux for an older computer, Zenwalk is a good one. I have it on a laptop right now that I use primarily as an Internet radio...433 mhz, 196 mb of ram. It's got a built in JBL sound system and actually sounds very good for having puny laptop speakers. Boots in under a minute and is extra stable (the thing crashed frequently with Win98, and XP barely ran on it).

Anyway, my two cents.

[FLAMING DEATH]

"Do that with windows, take a picture, and get back to me troll."

haha!

[bigdcaldavis]

I don't know if Apple would abaondon the computer industry. If anything, if Mac OS X fails to gain ground, I figure Apple would just drop all support of OS X in favor of Windows, basically becoming just another Wintel machine but have Apple's line of productivity software (iTunes, iPhoto, iLife, Garageband, etc.) and Apple's web browser (can't recall the name at this moment) pre-installed on all Apple PCs.

I think if MS keeps screwing up like they've been doing lately, then we could see a push for either Mac OS X being ported to Wintel machines such as Dell, HP, etc.; or a wider adoption of an easy-to-use Linux distro such as Xandros, Ubuntu, or Linspire. The latter could be interesting because when Linspire announced Freespire, they also announced that CNR (Click N Run) will now be open-sourced for other distros, which means CNR can now be officially ported over to rival Linux distros such as Xandros and Ubuntu. So the rumors of CNR being ported to Ubuntu were partially true.

[Petronski]

And then there's FlyakiteOSX which I have been unable to decide is ingenious or pathetic.

I use it on all my computers. WinXP is UG-LEE.

[Golden Eagle]

ROFL, considering you're the one who was quoting that leftist Stallman in the first posts I ever saw from you. Just because you've been cold busted ever since, don't think you can suddenly flip flop now.

If you expect anyone to believe you're suddenly opposed to Stallman now, you'll have to start criticizing him more like I do. You can start by admitting the BSD and Solaris licenses are better open source licenses, and that everyone should be using them instead of Stallman's GPL.

C'mon Flamer. You already admitted Stallman was a radical leftist. Condemn his license, like I do, and recommend the OSX or Solaris license instead. Else remain a fraud.

[SauronOfMordor]

A word in passing: I was told by knowledgeable people that when your code got around 90.000 to 100,000 lines that no one could keep track of it all (including all of the constants). I understand that MS is now pushing 500,000+ lines of code in their applications. This implies to me that no one knows what is happening in it.IMHO

It depends. Spaghetti code hits that point way earlier. Systems that are built up from distinct modules, such that the parts only interact in a few well-defined interfaces can grow fairly large, because each part stays understandable, and the whole can be seen from a high level

Windows seems more like the the former than the latter. You have parts that send out filaments that entwine themselves around the testicles of other parts, etc. For example, Internet Explorer code should not have been embedded into the OS

There comes a point where you just have to scrap the old system and start over with a clean design. And that won't happen with Windows

[bigdcaldavis]

I started using Linux in 2004 with Linspire and Xandros. I now have Xandros 3.0.2 OCE on my laptop (planning on getting Xandros 3.0.2 Business Edition to put on the laptop) and on the desktop as well. I'm downloading the latest Linspire ISO (version 5.1.427) and I'm gonna try that out on the desktop once I get it burned to a CD.

[zeugma]

The troll said:

I was responding to what you posted, not to what you now claim you were thinking.

The only person who apparently had trouble with comprehending was the troll. So, Once AGAIN... 

I said: 

"running dual head with either separate desktops (my personal preference)"

Like I said, if you can do that with windows, take a picture and post it. 

[zeugma]

Unfortunately, I don't know much about VNC at all anymore, though I used to use it years ago when I supported lots of windows systems. Hadn't even heard of x2vnc.