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Linux vs. Windows Vista vs. Leopard
Technology News ^ | 1 May 2006 | Rob Enderle

Posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: antiRepublicrat
Both of those statements are factually true

No they're not, since they were being used to claim Red Hawk wasn't being distributed, when the thread was a press release announcing it LOL! Yet here you are, months later, still lying.

161 posted on 05/04/2006 5:03:45 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat

I think FR is paying for their Linux, not using something free from Africa or Europe like so many of you. Nor do they endlessly push the stuff with continuous lies, that's what bugs me the most.


162 posted on 05/04/2006 5:09:49 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: dennisw

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that Linux has a ways to go yet in terms of user friendliness. A lot of the problem is that documentation assumes that you know a lot more than you do, which is why it's best to work with a live person.

But, since I started playing around with it about 3 or 4 years ago, it's gotten easier by leaps and bounds. Mepis seems to be ahead of a lot of distros in user friendliness, including a lot of wizards where other distros tend to make you work from the command line.

More than once, I've had trouble getting a distro to run correctly on a particular computer, then when I installed Mepis, everything just worked. Even the modems (which are a sticky point with Linux) worked great with both laptops that I've run it on.

As I said earlier, when you get Mepis 6 up and running, ping me if you need help.

And, sorry you're getting spammed by the resident troll :).


163 posted on 05/04/2006 5:10:48 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: antiRepublicrat

It was slow for me, too. Took me several trys at hitting the reload button.


164 posted on 05/04/2006 5:11:39 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: antiRepublicrat
Too bad your browser is broke again, you really should try something better than whatever junk it is you seem to be running. But if you ever do make it over there, I'm sure you'll love it, they seem to have SO much in common with you.


165 posted on 05/04/2006 5:18:38 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: FLAMING DEATH

If you have the time please point me to a Good download mirror for Mepis6. I'm having better luck with Mandriva 2006. I can log on OK. The correct screen resolution 1280x1028 was detected immediately. Still trying to install Firefox. If I designed Linux on the desktop there would be a few important instructions. How to download and install programs. Adjusting screen resolution. Making sure your modem or LAN can connect. These three have plagued me thru the years when trying Linux. Today I have two licked. Resolution and connecting to internet.


166 posted on 05/04/2006 6:24:24 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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To: dennisw; FLAMING DEATH
If you have the time please point me to a Good download mirror for Mepis6.

Here's a list of MEPIS mirrors.

167 posted on 05/04/2006 6:47:55 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dennisw; N3WBI3

http://www.mepis.org/node/1462

There's a list here of all the download mirrors. Remember, 6.0 is beta software, but from all indications it is very stable and runs really well. If you want to try a more stable version, the last release was 3.4.3, I think. But, you should be okay with 6. I'm planning on upgrading myself in a few days, when I get the time.

BTW, Mandriva uses RPM for software installation, and since I'm more familiar with Debian, I've pinged N3WBI3 to see if he can help you get downloading and installation of programs going.


168 posted on 05/04/2006 6:49:18 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks...you beat me to it!

BTW, are you familiar with Mandriva's software manager? I know it's RPM based...do you have any suggestions for dennisw?


169 posted on 05/04/2006 6:50:25 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH; dennisw
I'm not familiar with Mandriva, as I use Fedora almost exclusively. Fedora, like Mandriva, is RPM-based. I use a program called yum to manage my software. It is extremely easy to use. Also, I believe that there is a graphical version of it called GYUM as well, but I haven't used it.
170 posted on 05/04/2006 6:56:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: FLAMING DEATH; ShadowAce

Thanks for all the help and the Mepis mirrors. Now I know different Linux install your software and downloads different. I have a cable internet now (had mid range DSL) so I can download real fast. Thanks. DSL was fine for 98% of what I do but for downloads Comcast flies!


171 posted on 05/04/2006 7:05:44 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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To: dennisw

I found this:

"RPM (Red Hat Package Manager) is a file format used by Mandriva to install software. These files are also called "packages". To install software, just search and install it using the graphical tool provided with Mandriva, called rpmdrake - found in Mandriva Control Center as "install software", or System / Configuration / Packaging / Install Software on the system menu. You can also browse the web, download the RPM and double-click on it. It is not recommended to use an RPM package unless it is listed as being compatible with the exact version of Mandriva you use (do not use packages designed for other Linux distributions, or for a different version of Mandriva).

Some RPMs need other ones. These are referred to as dependencies. Mandriva has improved the RPM system in order to automatically install all needed dependencies if you use the recommended tools (rpmdrake or urpmi). "

http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/KB/Newbies#What+is+a+RPM%3F


172 posted on 05/04/2006 7:06:19 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH; ShadowAce

Also I might get a used hard drive on Ebay to experiment with Linux. Is 10gb good enough for a typical full bells and whistles install? Maybe 20gb is better 'cause then I can experiment with a windows 2000 or XP dual boot


173 posted on 05/04/2006 7:08:55 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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To: ShadowAce

Well, after a little Googling, I found out that Mandriva has a graphical package manager with it. Once he gets that up and running, he'll should have no problem installing software.


174 posted on 05/04/2006 7:09:23 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: dennisw

10g should be plenty for a standalone Linux install, I would think. Or, you can just add that 10g to a computer that already has a hard drive and keep your Linux and Windows on separate physical drives.

10g hard drives are super cheap on eBay.


175 posted on 05/04/2006 7:11:20 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Thanks. I've been by the RPM Drake. It seemed it only installed (optional) software from the three Linux disks. I will revisit it and see how it looks on the internet for Mandriva compatible software.


176 posted on 05/04/2006 7:11:30 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/)
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To: dennisw
It seemed it only installed (optional) software from the three Linux disks.

From a vanilla install, that may be true. However, I would think (this is true of yum, anyway) that you can add software repositories in its configuration and it will look on-line for additional software.

177 posted on 05/04/2006 7:17:56 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dennisw

As with most package managers, you might have to update the source list before you can download new programs. I found these instructions...

MandrakeUpdate is the tool that helps you update your installed software, you can start it by using one of the following methods:

- Open up your menu, select System -> Configuration -> Configure your computer
Then choose: Software Management -> Update

-or-

- Open up your menu, select System -> Configuration -> Packaging -> Mandrakelinux Update

-or-

- Open up a terminal emulator and type: MandrakeUpdate

I would say after that you should easily be able to install software from the internet.


178 posted on 05/04/2006 7:19:39 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: dennisw

I forgot: from there, follow these directions:

http://www.mandrakehelp.com/RPM-HOWTO.html#2.5


179 posted on 05/04/2006 7:22:36 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: ShadowAce

Yeah. It looks like rpmdrake is similar to gyum or Synaptic. There's an option to add sources if he wants.


180 posted on 05/04/2006 7:24:25 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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