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Duke Rape Case Defense: Throw Out DA Nifong and Photo ID
ABC ^ | May 1, 2006 | CHRIS CUOMO, ERIC AVRAM, and LARA SETRAKIAN

Posted on 05/01/2006 7:51:52 AM PDT by don'tbedenied

Accused Duke lacrosse player Reade Seligmann's attorneys want Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong thrown off the case.

Today, they filed a legal motion specifically asking for it.

"DA Mike Nifong neglected his duty as a prosecutor to seek the truth and a fair prosecution," the defense's motion reads.

The motions were filed just 24 hours before Nifong's Tuesday election in which he's fighting to keep his seat. Nifong is being challenged by former prosecutor Freda Black and private lawyer Keith Bishop


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bursonmarsteller; duke; dukelax; durham; ericcharlesknapp; falseallegations; lacrosse; nifong; rape; rapeshieldlaws; sacramento
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To: Jezebelle

I don't know. I was thinking men lose pubic hair every time they pee. With the Keg parties there, there was plenty of messy peeing.

And the condition of that house. The curtains, the back porch. I can only image the inside being a total wreck.

Megan said she got from the family - she said she talked the Father and another Family member. If it was the Father - hell, he could say Nifong beamed him up in a spaceship.

Nifong is sending the message there's something else. Even with Lawyers reminding him of the Ethics rules governing DA's, he continues to talk and say there was a Rape. He's certainly sending all the signals that there's some evidence that supports him and he said said to Rita it was something the Press doesn't know about. So, it wouldn't be the Medicial SANE exam.


1,461 posted on 05/05/2006 2:45:45 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: All

In case anyone didn't see this, these are actual statistics for rapes committed by whites on black victims. This would be rarest of all crimes:

"There is no current trend of white men raping black women, in other words. In fact, though sample sizes are considered too small to draw any solid conclusions, the most recent figures show that among white rape victims, 15.5 percent of those rapes were perpetrated by blacks, while 0.0 percent of black victims were raped by white males. (Zero in this case is a rounded figure meaning that the total number of black women raped by white men is between 0 and half of 1 percent of the total.)"

Source:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/kathleenparker/2006/04/19/194220.html


1,462 posted on 05/05/2006 3:29:07 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak

Yeah, but these guys pee outside, lol! :>

Still looking for that NTO. I've found every document EXCEPT that one.


1,463 posted on 05/05/2006 3:34:11 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

LOL!

If you find the NTO, shoot me the link, PLEASE.

I saw it at one time.


1,464 posted on 05/05/2006 3:38:30 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: Jezebelle

Maybe the hair is from the guy with the moustache...


1,465 posted on 05/05/2006 3:45:11 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: snarkytart; Protect the Bill of Rights; Jezebelle; maggief; TexKat
For your consideration, article posted today.

Rare look inside state crime labs reveals recurring DNA test problems

1,466 posted on 05/05/2006 3:50:22 AM PDT by Alia
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To: OakOak

I've seen it, too. But do you think I can find it now? Noooooo!


1,467 posted on 05/05/2006 4:19:22 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OakOak

What is the general opinion in Durham of Judge Stephens?


1,468 posted on 05/05/2006 4:20:45 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: OakOak

LOL!

I've given up trying to find that NTO for now. I will look some more tomorrow when I have time.


1,469 posted on 05/05/2006 4:22:45 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

This bothers me.. We know Kim Roberts lied and lied that night. We know her record of embezzlement, her record of eluding arrest (outstanding warrant), we know she didn't pay restituion as she had agreed to in writing. We know she wanted to take advantage of this "opportunity."

I just read (re-read to confirm) the feuding neighbor's (Jason Bissey) statement on Camera to Rita Cosby. He said he saw the women ARRIVE in the SAME car, a player came out to their car and then they walked around to the back door, he even described what each wore. The rest of Bissey's story jives with what reportedly happened that night.

We only have the "word" of two convicts that they didn't know each other beforehand. Even if they didn't know each other, the strippers could be hiding something by saying they arrived separately. Crystal could've been dropped off and then got in Kim's car, they could've bought drugs or went to buy some wine, etc.

I believe the Neighbor's (Bissey's) inital statement that turned out to be accurate in so many other respects. There's no telling why they would lie about pulling up together in the same car. Kim Roberts lied about other things that night to stay out of trouble, so it's no stretch to believe they are hiding some other activity just before the entered the house - an activity that would cast them or their story in doubt.

Bissey's Comments:

JASON BISSEY, LIVES NEXT DOOR TO ALLEGED CRIME SCENE: " I noticed a car drive up and two young women get out, met with the gentleman and then walked back to the back of the house. Two young women, one of them dressed in a short skirt and high heels, and the other woman was dressed a little more conservatively spoke with the gentleman outside of this door here briefly, and then at this point, all of the young men were inside. "

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12096835/


1,470 posted on 05/05/2006 4:46:00 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I don't know anything about Judge Stephens, Sorry


1,471 posted on 05/05/2006 4:46:54 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

He was the Durham DA in 1992 when a police corruption scandal prompted him to call in the SBI to clear it up. He was then elected Superior Court Judge in 1995.


1,472 posted on 05/05/2006 5:12:30 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Jezebelle; Locomotive Breath; All

Initial account (or story) is most accurate ... (my title)

"Memories don't just fade, as the old saying would have us believe; they also grow. What fades is the initial perception, the actual experience of the events. But every time we recall an event, we must reconstruct the memory, and with each recollection the memory may be changed--colored by succeeding events, other people's recollections or suggestions, increased understanding, or a new context."
Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dna/photos/eye/text_06.html

This will help the Duke Players... The Father has changed his story to mesh with his daugthers and
they are reports Bissey's account has changed from his first recorded and televised account.


1,473 posted on 05/05/2006 5:15:48 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: GAgal

Is he considered honest, competent, fair?


1,474 posted on 05/05/2006 5:20:19 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Jezebelle
How can he possibly know any results if the test results won't be ready until 5/15? I wonder if Nifong gave the family a pep talk, and they spun it into this statement? So far as I've seen, the family is a pack of liars, period.

I would like to know if it was the father,
I could see him misinterpreting Nifong, or being influenced by to TV lawyer, which I believe he was with the broomstick, I believe he heard no DNA = Bad for Crystal, then someone said maybe the broomstick was used...then he says "Crystal told me they used a broomstick on her." and then "TV lawyer" says, Nifong MIGHT have something good for his case w/ the new DNA.....then the father says....

1,475 posted on 05/05/2006 5:27:54 AM PDT by za_claws
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I don't live there, so I don't know. He has been elected several times as DA and judge, but then again Nifong has been elected and I don't consider him "honest, competent, or fair".


1,476 posted on 05/05/2006 5:34:19 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: GAgal
I have to go back to common sense.

3 200lb guys and 150lb Crystal all in one bathroom. How large was that bathroom?

Elitist white kids going anywhere near this woman (highly unlikely in my opinion). The kids are not dumb . No way they'd risk catching anything.

Making phone calls and raping at the same time? Then going out for a bite to eat?

A lineup test of multiple choice with no wrong answer...has to be thrown out.

1,477 posted on 05/05/2006 5:47:43 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: GAgal

One more thing--if rape was their intent why on earth would they pick a more than likely gross bathroom? Wasn't there a bedroom they could have dragged her to? This whole story makes no sense.


1,478 posted on 05/05/2006 5:50:01 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the DBM)
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To: CondorFlight
If you do get bit, smother the bite with MSM powder. It neutralizes the poison

So the mainstream media is good for something after all!

1,479 posted on 05/05/2006 5:54:36 AM PDT by murdoog
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To: OakOak

The defense has said that they arrived separately. If Jason Bissey is right, then the defense would have to be lying since a player saw them arrive together. Bissey is the only one who said they came together.


1,480 posted on 05/05/2006 5:55:45 AM PDT by LWalk18
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