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Duke Rape Case Defense: Throw Out DA Nifong and Photo ID
ABC ^ | May 1, 2006 | CHRIS CUOMO, ERIC AVRAM, and LARA SETRAKIAN

Posted on 05/01/2006 7:51:52 AM PDT by don'tbedenied

Accused Duke lacrosse player Reade Seligmann's attorneys want Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong thrown off the case.

Today, they filed a legal motion specifically asking for it.

"DA Mike Nifong neglected his duty as a prosecutor to seek the truth and a fair prosecution," the defense's motion reads.

The motions were filed just 24 hours before Nifong's Tuesday election in which he's fighting to keep his seat. Nifong is being challenged by former prosecutor Freda Black and private lawyer Keith Bishop


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bursonmarsteller; duke; dukelax; durham; ericcharlesknapp; falseallegations; lacrosse; nifong; rape; rapeshieldlaws; sacramento
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To: Jezebelle

You are probably right, I was just thinking of the irony, given this horrible situation.


1,061 posted on 05/03/2006 12:40:52 PM PDT by Repub4bush (Congratulations Tony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: za_claws

Obviously AV's car was elsewhere that night, since daddy said she "dropped it off." Is that correct? If it is, then where was it? Was she dropped off at Buchanan because she was in no shape to drive?


1,062 posted on 05/03/2006 12:42:42 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07
...Was she dropped off at Buchanan because she was in no shape to drive? _______________ that didn't stop her before. it is interesting the Kim said she did not know her before, but CGM did not have a car, How did she expect to get home? maybe she was to call whoever dropped her off? Did Kim say that the two arrived separate? I know the defense did.
1,063 posted on 05/03/2006 12:49:46 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Dukie07
I think the "dropped it off" from the father was referring to the next morning when Mangum said "she didn't want to drive it for awhile". I think we've been presuming that Mangum was dropped off at Buchanan by her b/f-pimp. Presumably he and Mangum had an arrangement for pickup later but because the performance was cut short, Mangum ended up leaving with Kim.
1,064 posted on 05/03/2006 12:49:50 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: za_claws

Does anyone know what the Kroger Security Guard said, did she say how long they were in the parking, trying to talk CGM out of the car? Also how long does it take to get from the house to Kroger? there is 29 mins+ between the 911 calls.

is there time for BF/Pimp to b!tch slap her for not having all the money?


1,065 posted on 05/03/2006 1:01:12 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: Locomotive Breath

Yes, I guess I just assumed she would have driven herself to the gig if she had her car (Kim did). Since the team members said she arrived drunk, I thought that could possibly explain why she was dropped off. However, if the deal is that she is driven to gigs and picked up by whomever so that they can get their cut, then I understand. Still missing pieces, though, imo. Also, I still would like to know how long swelling/bruises take to show for the type of beating that alledgedly took place.


1,066 posted on 05/03/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: za_claws

According to Mapquest, 5 minutes to get to Kroger.


1,067 posted on 05/03/2006 1:18:08 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

One of the recent defense filings says the accuser was dropped off by a male. Also, they asked for her phone records, so they may not know everything about her whereabouts that day. According to her forked-tongued dad, the accuser called him for directions enroute to the party and said as "they" arrived, "Oh, we're here." If true, which I doubt, that call would show about when she arrived.

The odd thing is that Nifong has had both Crystal and Kim's phone logs for weeks. It will be interesting to know how he followed up on what they reveal.


1,068 posted on 05/03/2006 1:23:26 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: Dukie07

Thanks,
So 25 mins they did something, eat? see the person who collects the money,
maybe the were in the parking lot the whole time, Kim was trying to get her out of the car, say for 15 minutes, then the Security Guard came over to investigate, and tried to get her out for 10 minutes? seems like a lot of time....


1,069 posted on 05/03/2006 1:23:33 PM PDT by za_claws
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To: za_claws; Dukie07
Since by this time Mangum was non responsive and Roberts knew she was violating parole and didn't want to meet up with the cops, I've always assumed that Roberts drove around with Mangum trying to figure out what to do with her. Roberts wouldn't dump Mangum in a ditch but she tried to dump her at Kroger. Unfortunately for Roberts the cops got called anyway and Roberts is busted.
1,070 posted on 05/03/2006 1:36:26 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Why did she have to dump her? Why not take her home?


1,071 posted on 05/03/2006 1:38:19 PM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: GAgal

"According to her forked-tongued dad, the accuser called him for directions enroute to the party and said as "they" arrived, "Oh, we're here." If true, which I doubt, that call would show about when she arrived"

How weird is that? Calling Daddy to get directions to your strip job....... Makes one wonder.


1,072 posted on 05/03/2006 1:42:17 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Locomotive Breath

Makes sense....maybe too much sense for this case....but I'll buy it.


1,073 posted on 05/03/2006 1:44:40 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

He only came up with that story because the defense had just publicly stated she arrived at the house "seriously impaired". He was countering that premise. Unfortunately, his penchant for contradicting himself and his wife makes anything he's said questionable.


1,074 posted on 05/03/2006 1:46:24 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: don'tbedenied
Why did she have to dump her? Why not take her home?

Unlike members of the media, strippers don't harbor any illusions about the chararcter of other strippers. No way she wanted CM in her home.

Now, if you mean Mangum's home, I suppose since she was passed out and her purse was back at the house on Buchanon, Roberts had no way of knowing Mangum's address.

1,075 posted on 05/03/2006 1:46:52 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: OldFriend

Are you sure he, himself, actually went down there? I remember that he was going to go, but didn't. He did say he would pay for her college, and that was at the point when he decided not to actually go there. He said Rainbow Push would pay the tuition even it it turned out to be a false claim.


1,076 posted on 05/03/2006 1:47:01 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OldFriend

It depends on the vote disparity. If it's close, she can ask for a recount, I would think, just to be sure there were no errors. Asking for a recount should not be characterized as a "Gore", because mistakes in vote tallying are common. If I lost in a race this close, I would want the election scrutinized. There is nothing foolish or presumptuous aboout that, nor does it reach anywhere near the extreme level to which Gore took the '00 election counting.


1,077 posted on 05/03/2006 1:51:08 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Publius22
yeah I meant magnum's home, your totally trashed theory is consistent with everything I've read, so Kim will have to testify why she dumped her at Krogers--effectively confirming she/AV was comatose. Meaning of course the AV's ID and testimony are very suspect.
Regarding the rape drug--I'll bet you 10-1 she didn't consent to a drug/alcohol screen. So Nofong is blowing smoke.
1,078 posted on 05/03/2006 1:51:42 PM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: OldFriend

Your response prompted me to do a wee bit of research, since I asked this question before. xo said it was an open primary. Actually, NC practices a modified open primary in which Independents can vote in either primary.

The reason I wondered about this in the first place was because it seemed odd to me that Nifong held back on going public on this case for at least two weeks, then he went full throttle. I speculated he did this because he didn't want Republicans to re-register as Dems to vote him out for this lynching he has undertaken. I wondered if there was a cut-off date for registering a party change around the time prior to Nifong going public about the case.


1,079 posted on 05/03/2006 1:59:41 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: OldFriend

I disagree. I have never seen nor heard of this level of animosity and malice from the citizenry against a fine university. It sure isn't present at Cal Tech, Stanford, UC Davis, UM Ann Arbor or UC Berkeley.

I think what we're seeing in Durham is the exception, not the rule.


1,080 posted on 05/03/2006 2:04:25 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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