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Justice for All
styleweekly.com ^ | April 26 | John Shelby Spong

Posted on 04/25/2006 11:50:44 PM PDT by darkangel82

Justice for All by John Shelby Spong

The question of rights for homosexuals keeps surfacing in different guises. In November, Virginians will vote on an amendment to the Virginia Bill of Rights that will deny gays the right to marry. In New Jersey, my adopted state, the Supreme Court will sometime in the next few months hand down its ruling in the case of Lewis v. Harris. The final arguments from the attorneys for the plaintiff and the state have already been heard. All that remains is for the members of the court to engage in their own deliberations, to vote and to announce their decision.

This case was filed more than three years ago by seven gay and lesbian couples of New Jersey, who have been living in faithful, committed and loving partnerships that range from 13 to 34 years in duration. They are asking for the state to recognize their relationships as marriages and to sanction them, thus giving them the same rights and privileges enjoyed by heterosexual couples, including equal benefits under the tax codes, full spousal coverage in insurance programs, and equal visitation rights and authority in all circumstances of sickness, accidents and death.

It has been my privilege to know two of these seven couples quite well. I respect their integrity; I honor their partnerships.

I am encouraged about the prospects for this case. The questions asked by the justices during final arguments seemed to me to offer sufficient reason to anticipate a positive outcome.

This case has been in the legal process since 2002, winding its way step by step to this last stop with the Supreme Court. The time for a decision has come.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: barfalert; cino; homosexualagenda; spong
wasn't sure whether to post this here or in news, but I didn't think it was newsworthy (nothing Spong says ever is.)
1 posted on 04/25/2006 11:50:45 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: darkangel82

"The executive director of the League of American Families, John Tomicki, opposing the petition of these couples, said before the proceedings, “We hope the court will resist the temptation to legislate from the bench.” That is a tired argument and was used to try to stop the Supreme Court from both declaring segregation illegal and supporting the rights of women to equal treatment. Legislating is an interesting code word. New Jersey’s Assistant Attorney General Patrick De Almeida took the same line in his closing statement, basing his entire case on the argument that this is an issue that should be decided not by the courts but by the legislature. Since when, I wonder, have basic human rights been granted by the vote of the legislature, rather than by the guarantee of the Constitution?"

Not only is he a bad pastor, he's an awful legal analyst as well. There is no 'code word' in denouncing 'legislating from the bench', it is a direct statement that judges ought not define a ruling based on judicial fiat, without a concrete basis in the text of the laws.

Without rule of law, we have judicial tyranny and from that NO RIGHTS AT ALL.

This man is an idiot.


2 posted on 04/26/2006 12:43:13 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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...but I didn't think it was newsworthy (nothing Spong says ever is.)

I recommend using the headline add-on (Barf Alert!) in the future when you post such non-"newsworthy" articles...

:-)

3 posted on 04/26/2006 5:59:20 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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The question of rights for homosexuals keeps surfacing in different guises.

Actually, the fallacy of "homosexual rights" keeps being put forward by leftists. Special rights above and beyond human rights because one feels predisposed to engage in an activity or chooses to engage in an activity?

An activity not Constitutionally guaranteed; an activity that society condemns; an activity that society has decided merits no reward or privilege?

--A couple quotes from the Reality Manifesto:

"Like religion, homosexuality is subjectively determined and declared -NOT objectively determined and confirmed via some objective scientific test. If one feels they are a homosexual and declares they are -who can disagree with them? Who can objectively identify a homosexual person? If those that declare homosexuality become a protected class or exceptional class of individuals warranting extra 'rights' above and beyond those already afforded all human beings THEN what is to prevent everyone from claiming the socially rewarded, prized, and critically acclaimed homosexual status?"

"What of homosexual rights? Should rights be based upon sexual feelings (orientation) or even more on sexual activities that must be proved? It is a fact that feelings are subjective. Consequently, how can any rights be derived from something subjective? In fact, 'buying into' the subjective argument by default implies that rights are not God-given and or unalienable -rights instead are given to individuals arbitrarily by the State or created from thin air by the State and as such can be taken away arbitrarily by the State. The whole 'feelings' argument kicks our Founder's recognition of unalienable rights which is basis for our Independence, Union, and Constitution to the curb..."

"Homosexual Rights"???

ROTFLMAO

4 posted on 04/26/2006 6:17:55 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Yeah, I did forget the barf alert, didn't I? Oh well, it was late at night when I posted it. I can still add it as a keyword.


5 posted on 04/26/2006 8:51:59 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: DBeers
For all those claiming an Amendment to protect marriage id discriminatory, the truth is such an amendment grants rights. It protects marriage.

To say it discriminates, is like saying the first amendment discriminates against atheists because it states Freedom of Religion and the free exercises there of.

It doesn't take away anything, from anyone. It reinforces rights.
6 posted on 04/26/2006 9:52:00 AM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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Actually, the fallacy of "homosexual rights" keeps being put forward by leftists. Special rights above and beyond human rights because one feels predisposed to engage in an activity or chooses to engage in an activity?

Yes, but you see, homosexuality is an orientation. If it were classified--rightly, I believe--as a preference, even the appearance of a civil rights issue would fly out the window. One would be left with a case for rights excepting preference.

In other words, let's play hypothetical and suppose that two homosexual men file suit against a landlord for denying them housing. The landlord should have an argument, on general principle, to discriminate based on the potential tenant's (or tenants') activities. When you're talking about a preference or a lifestyle choice, determining whether it's right or wrong--in the public and legal spheres--would seem to be a little harder to establish than a genetic proclivity or predisposition towards certain behaviors. Obviously, there are exceptions.
7 posted on 04/26/2006 6:15:00 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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To: WOSG
...it is a direct statement that judges ought not define a ruling based on judicial fiat, without a concrete basis in the text of the laws.

Without a concrete basis or in defiance of sufficient, relevant sources.
8 posted on 04/26/2006 6:17:44 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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