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The question of rights for homosexuals keeps surfacing in different guises.

Actually, the fallacy of "homosexual rights" keeps being put forward by leftists. Special rights above and beyond human rights because one feels predisposed to engage in an activity or chooses to engage in an activity?

An activity not Constitutionally guaranteed; an activity that society condemns; an activity that society has decided merits no reward or privilege?

--A couple quotes from the Reality Manifesto:

"Like religion, homosexuality is subjectively determined and declared -NOT objectively determined and confirmed via some objective scientific test. If one feels they are a homosexual and declares they are -who can disagree with them? Who can objectively identify a homosexual person? If those that declare homosexuality become a protected class or exceptional class of individuals warranting extra 'rights' above and beyond those already afforded all human beings THEN what is to prevent everyone from claiming the socially rewarded, prized, and critically acclaimed homosexual status?"

"What of homosexual rights? Should rights be based upon sexual feelings (orientation) or even more on sexual activities that must be proved? It is a fact that feelings are subjective. Consequently, how can any rights be derived from something subjective? In fact, 'buying into' the subjective argument by default implies that rights are not God-given and or unalienable -rights instead are given to individuals arbitrarily by the State or created from thin air by the State and as such can be taken away arbitrarily by the State. The whole 'feelings' argument kicks our Founder's recognition of unalienable rights which is basis for our Independence, Union, and Constitution to the curb..."

"Homosexual Rights"???

ROTFLMAO

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For all those claiming an Amendment to protect marriage id discriminatory, the truth is such an amendment grants rights. It protects marriage.

To say it discriminates, is like saying the first amendment discriminates against atheists because it states Freedom of Religion and the free exercises there of.

It doesn't take away anything, from anyone. It reinforces rights.

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Actually, the fallacy of "homosexual rights" keeps being put forward by leftists. Special rights above and beyond human rights because one feels predisposed to engage in an activity or chooses to engage in an activity?

Yes, but you see, homosexuality is an orientation. If it were classified--rightly, I believe--as a preference, even the appearance of a civil rights issue would fly out the window. One would be left with a case for rights excepting preference.

In other words, let's play hypothetical and suppose that two homosexual men file suit against a landlord for denying them housing. The landlord should have an argument, on general principle, to discriminate based on the potential tenant's (or tenants') activities. When you're talking about a preference or a lifestyle choice, determining whether it's right or wrong--in the public and legal spheres--would seem to be a little harder to establish than a genetic proclivity or predisposition towards certain behaviors. Obviously, there are exceptions.