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Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)
News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

Posted on 04/25/2006 2:34:48 AM PDT by abb

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To: Locomotive Breath

Nifong is up against the A team.


281 posted on 04/25/2006 11:29:28 AM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: TexKat
"Must be the 10 pounds of makeup they have to wear while appearing on Fox News."

She looks like she also gained about 30 or 40 pounds since she worked for the Clinton Justice Department.

282 posted on 04/25/2006 11:30:01 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Locomotive Breath

He went to a Catholic high school.


283 posted on 04/25/2006 11:30:06 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: abb

All I am saying is that their diversion requirements might have included things that did not involve the law. So while hiring a stripper was legal, going to a strip party could violate a diversion agreement. In which case the DA need not show they were drinking underage nor have the arrested. He might just need to assert they were not living upright lives. But I am not a lawyer either, so I am just speculating.


284 posted on 04/25/2006 11:30:53 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

True enough. But even Nifong can't make it up out of whole cloth that they WERE AT the party. Someone has to SAY, "I saw John Smith at the party." I don't think Nifong has that..


285 posted on 04/25/2006 11:33:26 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: sissyjane
So would that be a priest from his home town come down to lend moral support? (In several senses of the word.) I don't think CF raped anyone, but he needs to be told to stay away from street fights and strippers. I'm hoping the priest does that about eight or nine times today.
286 posted on 04/25/2006 11:33:36 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: sissyjane

So--victims of crimes are driven to grocery stores in N.C.--Who knew??
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We do have a trend. I lived outside of Durham for a short while and I never knew.


287 posted on 04/25/2006 11:33:41 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Locomotive Breath

And to be fair, it's not, at this point, even clear that CF was at the party.


288 posted on 04/25/2006 11:34:14 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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New Problems for Suspect in Duke Rape Case - AP VIDEO
289 posted on 04/25/2006 11:35:35 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Locomotive Breath

Precisely. All we have is the word of Kim, who at best is a flakey witness and Crystral, who used a possibly non-admissable ID. Right now (correct me if I'm wrong) the only people who were at the party as a matter of record, were the 3 team captains and Seligman, who was ID'd by the cab driver.

What say y'all?


290 posted on 04/25/2006 11:37:56 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: JLS

Finnerty's lawyer is the one who says very little. Has he indicated Collin wasn't at the party at all? Abrams said Collin doesn't appear in any of the photos released so far, but there are probably many more. Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Cotten cross-examine Kim about seeing "the little skinny one" and being presented with photo after photo of the gathered crowd and asked "Do you see him in this one ... or this ... or this ... or this ....?


291 posted on 04/25/2006 11:40:04 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: GAgal

Just thought of another thing. This is why we've only seen a few photos. None of the players are shown on the photos, right? The defense doesn't want to show any that might place someone at the scene.

Am I talking out my a$$ again?


292 posted on 04/25/2006 11:42:33 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: TexKat

Loved the potato chip commercial I had to watch first....

Collin Finnerty looks like my youngest son. This travesty is making me sick.


293 posted on 04/25/2006 11:44:38 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: maggief; Howlin; mystery-ak; Neverforget01
AP Video: Second Stripper Takes AP Inside Lacrosse Party

In an Associated Press exclusive interview, the second stripper involved in the Duke rape case reveals her account of the night another dancer says she was sexually assaulted. This is the most extensive interview with Kim Roberts you'll see anywhere. (April 21)

294 posted on 04/25/2006 11:45:07 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: abb

They don't want to help the accuser the next time she is given a handful of darts and told to pick Perp #3 by hitting his picture on the team poster. Why shrink the number of possibles, when they aren't even including fillers?


295 posted on 04/25/2006 11:45:20 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: Locomotive Breath
A couple 'photojournalists' ...

296 posted on 04/25/2006 11:45:34 AM PDT by maggief (And the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: TexKat

New Problems for Suspect in Duke Rape Case - AP VIDEO

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Honestly, this assault charge is meaningless at this point. The trial will most likely result in some probation, not jail.


297 posted on 04/25/2006 11:48:06 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Locomotive Breath

Interesting interactive time line on WRAL website.
Missing a few key events I think

http://www.wral.com/news/8984279/detail.html

You know, we've been assuming that after Kim called the cops (1st 911 call) and then yelled at the lax team that she had done so, we've kinda' assumed that they "scattered" and left the house permanently. I have to wonder if, during the subsequent short time the cops were there, some were just down the street observing or quietly hiding out in the house. Just because the cops saw no one doesn't mean no one saw the cops. Then they could have returned to the house after the coast was clear. Does this have any effect on the timeline viz the taxi driver's return to the house to pick up four more lax players?


298 posted on 04/25/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: TexKat

I didn't find the link to the AP video of Kim ... and now I'm craving Pringles. ;)


299 posted on 04/25/2006 11:49:59 AM PDT by maggief (And the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: GAgal

Lets recap as to who can be PROVED as to who was at the scene:
Seligman: ID'd by cab driver (defense witness) and AV (Flakey prosecution witness)
Finnerty: ID'd by AV and Kim (Both flakey prosecution witness)
Three team captains: Admitted to being at scene during questioning by investigators.

Anyone else?


300 posted on 04/25/2006 11:50:43 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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