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Call to Escort Service Began a Night of Trouble at Duke
New York Times ^ | April 22, 2006 | DUFF WILSON and JULIET MACUR

Posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:36 AM PDT by VRWCer

DURHAM, N.C., April 22 — The Duke University lacrosse team's troubles began with a phone call.

A team captain using an assumed name called an escort service to hire two exotic dancers for a party on March 13. Last week, two Duke players were indicted (snip)

To all but some of the people at the party, the truth of what happened that night to one of the dancers, who accused three white players of raping her in a bathroom, is a mystery.

Mr. Nifong says a sexual assault occurred, based on hospital records and the account of the accuser, who is black. A second dancer and a neighbor corroborated some of the accuser's details.

Defense lawyers say the accuser was drunk when she arrived at the party, and fabricated the assault. Taxi and bank receipts and dormitory access records prove that Mr. Seligmann could not have raped the woman, his lawyer says. (snip)

About 8:30 p.m., a 27-year-old single mother of two answered her phone. That woman, a Durham native, was enrolled at North Carolina Central, a historically black college on the south side of town. Its patchy grass and simple brick buildings are a world away from Duke.

When she arrived about 11:30 p.m., she was wearing a negligee and shiny white high heels,... (snip)

The accuser said later that both women re-entered the house after one player apologized for the behavior during their dance. She said two men then pulled her into a bathroom, locked the door and said, "Sweetheart, you can't leave."

It was then, she told the police, that Mr. Seligmann forced her to perform oral sex, and Mr. Finnerty raped and sodomized her and the third suspect strangled her, according to a transcript of a photo identification session with police on April 4. (snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; escortservice; lacrosse; stripper
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To: Accygirl
But the victim's being lynched (I believe unfairly)

What exactly is the difference between what you have accused this web site and others of doing and what you're doing to the players on the lacrosse team?

And believe me when I tell you this, I do mean BESIDES it's because it's what you think.

The way this thread looks, you're doing exactly what you've accused everybody else of doing -- but you're helping a liar make false accusations.

The next girl who is raped will surely thank you.

121 posted on 04/23/2006 9:39:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: eazdzit
FYI They have a bad reputation have been under investigation.

BS.

That PC BS was AFTER the fact; she stated that they WERE being investigated.

After the guy said he planned to kill strippers

I just love posters like you; it answers the burning question of who listens ONLY to the news reporters and never has a true grasp of the facts.

While you're busy Googling there, go Google American Psycho.

And if you don't know the facts, it's better NOT to make declarative statements.

122 posted on 04/23/2006 9:42:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: eazdzit; sissyjane
Bad associations often times account for unexplainable behavior.

They're JEWISH, dimbulb. Do you think they hang around with Muslims?

FGS, are you always this clueless?

123 posted on 04/23/2006 9:43:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Accygirl
And nobody takes the accusations seriously.

We all took them seriously. We've been taking them seriously for well over a month.

The difference in us and you is that we didn't the invesitaging and found out the facts and then drew our conclusions.

Any fool can see she's lying.

But you're right: the next girl who is attacked won't get taken seriously, because of people like you who aided and abetted this woman in a false accusation of rape.

Frankly, you and people like you disgust me.

124 posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:00 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TankerKC
Big watch and flannel shirt?

I know I'm going to hate myself for this, but will you share the joke?

125 posted on 04/23/2006 9:46:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

BTTT


126 posted on 04/23/2006 9:48:13 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Howlin
is that we didn't the invesitaging

Dang, that's what I get for posting when I'm pi$$ED.

Obviously I meant

is that we did the invesitaging

127 posted on 04/23/2006 9:51:18 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: 185JHP

I had to correct myself........my only excuse is that it wouldn't have happened if I had the capability of reaching through the monitor and, in the words of Chris Rock, "...shaking the s**t..." out of somebody! GRRR.


128 posted on 04/23/2006 9:53:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: lastchance
She did not since the college she attends is about 6 miles away. I would buy her a handgun and have her take shooting lessons. Then I would make sure she applied for a conceal carry permit in whatever town she went to school in.

I have given her shooting lessons, as well as having an old Marine sergeant friend train her in hand-to-hand and knife-fighting

129 posted on 04/24/2006 3:25:31 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: lastchance

regarding concealed carry: most states, including mine, you have to be 21 to get licensed


130 posted on 04/24/2006 3:38:13 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: lastchance
So a female might be mentally receptive before she is physically receptive.

Exactly.

131 posted on 04/24/2006 3:41:28 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Accygirl

You don't get it, do you? You can stereotype but no one else can? Grow up.


132 posted on 04/24/2006 4:04:07 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Accygirl
Of course, eveyone's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. However, if either of those guys tried to pick me up in a bar, I'd run in another direction. They remind me of Hoyt from "I Am Charlotte Simmons".

You're not the only poster to quote that movie. Maybe I should try and rent it, because I've never seen it. As for your comments, to me they look like the box boys at my local supermarket.

Appearances can be deceiving. I would hate to be on a jury where the case has already been tried in the media.

133 posted on 04/24/2006 4:49:06 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Accygirl

"However, I must admit that I am biased because I did go to this place called college and I was unfortunately privvy to some of the nasty behavior of this type of frat guy."

Ever heard of "Girls Gone Wild"? They are all upstanding college girls?


134 posted on 04/24/2006 4:58:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: eazdzit; Accygirl; Howlin; sissyjane

IMO, there is some selective reading of that cite.

Only investigation are by Jimmy Olsons, cub reporters and cub DAs tallying up any and all arrests or cases involving members of the LAX team over the past three and Lois Lanes concluding that there has been an investigation of the LAX team during that team.

So retroactively, they are investigating perhaps, but that is to cover the Duke admin's quick suspsension of coach and team.... guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "under investigation" is .... ;)

See for example, the horrors described below, college students drinking, misbehaving, being loud, whizzing in public.... and oh, yes, so I guess they and 1.1 million other students do "have a bad reputation...."

http://www.gambling911.com/032906Bnews.html

"In the meantime, The Winston-Salem Journal is reporting that in the past three years, about a third of the members of the Duke lacrosse team, under investigation in a reported gang rape have been charged with misdemeanors stemming from drunken and disruptive behavior, court records show.

Of the team's 47 members, 15 faced charges including underage alcohol possession, having open containers of alcohol, loud noise and public urination."


135 posted on 04/24/2006 5:17:34 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: freespirited; lastchance
just how big is this bathroom?

Oh boy. I remember my friends and I would crowd into the bathroom, putting on makeup. 3 three of us, 2 standing up at the sink mirror, and another one sitting on the edge of the tub, or the toilet. This house was built in the 30's, so I can imagine this bathroom in question, was even worse than mine.

136 posted on 04/24/2006 5:52:03 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: Accygirl
Lets get back to the point. Do you stand by your assertion in post 78 that, "...there was already an investigation of the lacrosse team...".

If so, could you provide some source?

137 posted on 04/24/2006 6:10:33 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: Howlin
You posted:

"is that we didn't the invesitaging

Dang, that's what I get for posting when I'm pi$$ED.

Obviously I meant

is that we did the invesitaging "

Looks like you been hittin the sauce again.

:)Easy Does It:)

138 posted on 04/24/2006 8:47:47 AM PDT by eazdzit (Vote AGAINST All CFR, NWO PuboCrats !! CROSS OVER IN THE PRIMARIES!!!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I am not that familiar with the various state laws. Thanks for the information. I suppose that till a girl reaches 21 she will just have to go about armed with her trusted Dobie Matic.


139 posted on 04/24/2006 9:24:26 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I am Charlotte Simmons is not a movie, it is a book by Tom Wolfe. I am not sure if it even out in paperback yet.


140 posted on 04/24/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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