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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: Krodg

YES!!!

Exactly. Krodg is the man


341 posted on 04/21/2006 7:50:21 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: Krodg
FGS. Just FGS.

Sorry fellas?

"I didn't want to leave her with them."

But I did want to dump her at a Kroger's parking lot?

She's lying. She gave the defense more than one interview -- and they have her ON TAPE.

342 posted on 04/21/2006 7:50:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Krodg

Didn't she confirm that email?


343 posted on 04/21/2006 7:51:25 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Good Morning. I hope The Finnertys and Seligmanns include Ms Kim in their defamation suits for aiding and abetting Crystal in this scam.
344 posted on 04/21/2006 7:51:59 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: OakOak

I just got here this morning. Sorry, I didn't see your post, and I'm not questioning it at all. Great minds....


345 posted on 04/21/2006 7:52:11 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Howlin

The AP confirmed it too and FOX is reporting..

I'm out of here.


346 posted on 04/21/2006 7:52:21 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: Alia

Did she honestly just get community service?


347 posted on 04/21/2006 7:52:29 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: OakOak

My hubby would disagree. LOL


348 posted on 04/21/2006 7:53:04 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Crawdad

Yes,, I agree wholeheartedly. I really do .

Thanks! I have to go


349 posted on 04/21/2006 7:53:10 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: All

I've been saying all along that Kim's actions that night meant that she wanted to get the hell away from the whole scene before the cops showed up. Now we know why. She was on parole and had committed a violation. I'll bet, again, that the elapsed time between 610 and Kroger was spent driving around with Kim thinking "how can I get this messed up amateur b*tch out of my car and get away from this." I'm really surprised our lovely Miss Kim didn't put Mangum out on the street to fend for herself. Instead she drove her to the Kroger and tried to dump her there. Now that she knows that she can't just disappear she's trying to cash in by dragging out her 15 minutes.


350 posted on 04/21/2006 7:53:47 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Neverforget01

This is what I get for doing my errands before I get online, isn't it? 400 posts behind.

And we thought it couldn't get any worse.


351 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:10 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Didn't she confirm that email?

More or less, by stating "Why shouldn't I profit?"

Let's say a rape occurred. How sick would have to be to say something that about what would be a horrible crime? That's why it sounds like she doesn't really believe a rape occurred, she was called a n----- and that's all that matters to her.

352 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:23 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Howlin

Incredible!!--You're friend Freda is having a news conference at 11 on Fox. They are planning on covering it.


353 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:38 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Howlin

In the AP article Kim says, "I was not in the bathroom when it (the rape) happened." Does anyone, even Kim, know approximately when that was supposed to have occurred? I've seen hints that the story may change to it happening before midnight now.


354 posted on 04/21/2006 7:54:49 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: Howlin

Yeah, but not when it was first posted. Most of us thought it was a joke.


355 posted on 04/21/2006 7:55:00 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Locomotive Breath

What is MS's blog?


356 posted on 04/21/2006 7:55:05 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: Howlin

What community was she supposed to "service"?


357 posted on 04/21/2006 7:55:15 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: GAgal

Midnight of what day?


358 posted on 04/21/2006 7:56:00 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: OakOak

She was forced to strip, forced to steal
This po down girl ain't had a meal!
Her baby was cryin, she thought she was dyin,
No doctor, no food, those bills, and she's tryin'


359 posted on 04/21/2006 7:56:18 AM PDT by Alia
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To: GAgal

I've seen hints that the story may change to it happening before midnight now.

They are gonna have a hard time proving that since they have photos that are time-stamped..


360 posted on 04/21/2006 7:57:13 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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