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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped.

Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred - and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty ... but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe ... her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.

On Monday, the same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. District Attorney Mike Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.

"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment for what she is now saying," Thomas said.

Mark Simeon, Roberts' attorney, said the bond conditions were changed because Roberts is not considered a flight risk. Nifong, who hasn't spoken with reporters about the case in weeks, didn't return a call seeking comment.

Roberts' testimony could be vital during any trial of the two sophomores, indicted on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping.

Other than lacrosse players and the accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby university, Roberts is believed to be the only other person at the March 13 party.

Roberts said Thursday she does not remember Seligmann's face, but said she recalls seeing Finnerty - whom she described as the "little skinny one."

"I was looking him right in the eyes," she said.

Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police - including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.

The players' attorneys have said their clients were angry and demanded a refund when the women stopped dancing, but Roberts disputed that.

"They ripped themselves off when they started hollering about a broomstick," she said.

The accuser told police that the women were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

Later, police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call.

Roberts then drove the accuser - whom she reportedly had just met that night - to a grocery store and asked a security guard to call 911. The accuser was described later by a police officer as "just passed-out drunk."

The defense timeline is backed up by a cab driver who said Seligmann called for a ride at 12:14 a.m., and was picked up five minutes later. The defense argues that if the dancers were performing around midnight, Seligmann would not have had enough time to participate in the 30-minute assault described by the accuser.

The cabbie, Moez Mostafa, also said he saw a woman leaving the party in anger, and overheard someone say, "She just a stripper. She's going to call the police."

"She looked, like, mad," he said of the woman. "In her face, the way she walked, the way she talked, she looked like mad."

On Thursday, authorities released warrants detailing their search earlier this week of Finnerty's dorm room. Seized during the search were a newspaper article and an envelope addressed to Finnerty.

Also Thursday, 5W Public Relations, a New York firm that specializes in "crisis communication," distributed an e-mail signed "The 2nd Dancer," and Roberts confirmed she sent it after learning the AP knew her identity.

"I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," she wrote. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage."

Ronn Torossian, 5W's president, said he replied, but got no response.

"If this person is indeed who they say they are, I would be happy to speak with her," said Torossian, whose firm has represented the likes of Sean "Diddy" Combs, Ice Cube and Lil' Kim.

Roberts, like the accuser a divorced single mother who is black, took umbrage at the notion that she should not try to make something out of her experience. She's worried that once her name and criminal record are public, no one will want to hire her.

"Why shouldn't I profit from it?" she asked. "I didn't ask to be in this position ... I would like to feed my daughter."

Roberts is bracing for an all-out attack, but said she's almost past caring.

"Don't forget that they called me a damn n####," she said. "She (the accuser) was passed out in the car. She doesn't know what she was called. I was called that. I can never forget that."


BLOCKBUSTER !! KIM's a GEM !!

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 - eight days after the party - on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: da; dancer; duke; dukelax; durham; lacrosse; lax; rape
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To: Neverforget01; Warren_Piece

No, I haven't. Maybe someone would like to send it to Drudge and WRAL.


241 posted on 04/21/2006 6:21:16 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: OakOak
But, I'm starting to think he's certifiable. I read where a member of the bar blasted him this morning - saying he was a disgrace (or something close).

Finally, someone speaks the truth in this case. I've heard of railroading by prosecutorial misconduct, but this is insane. I'm starting to think that Nifong has some sort of personality disorder.

242 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:06 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: FreedomPoster; Locomotive Breath

She may be aka Kim Forney.


243 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:15 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: OakOak

OakOak,

Sounds like you live in the area. I'm in Wake County and have been following this case very closely.

I know Kim's background from reading the papers (and FR!)but I have not heard her interview with the AP yet. Anything earth shattering in the interview?

She is a questionable witness at best due to her criminal history and her current occupation.


244 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:19 AM PDT by GOPRaleigh (If John Kerry didn't exist then Karl Rove would have to invent him.)
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To: FreedomPoster

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1283&dept_id=158550&newsid=15160585&PAG=461&rfi=9

* Kimberly A. Sargent, also known as Kim Forney or Kim Roberts, 25, 240 Lake Street, Wise - one count of stealing property from Henry Winston Bright; one count of conspiracy to commit grand larceny. Punishable by up to 20 and 10 years in prison, respectively.


245 posted on 04/21/2006 6:27:09 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: OakOak; maggief

It's hard to keep up with all the changing stories. I wouldn't rely too much on Bissey, though. Long running feud and all. He probably is sniffing around for an "opportunity", just like Ms. Kim.

I'd like to know how these folks can look themselves in the mirror? What trash.

Did you catch Bissey's myspace profile that maggief posted? Says he's unmarried. Now didn't it state somewhere that he has a wife? She was also part of the feud with the lax guys if I read correctly. Lol, this whole thing is getting curiouser and curiouser.


246 posted on 04/21/2006 6:35:25 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: maggief; Howlin; All

From the beginning of this case, I have been following developments through a blog written by a Duke visiting professor. He brings up an interesting question in the entry below:

http://blog.lordsutch.com/archives/3407

Should/can the News and Observer write another article which includes any statements the accuser made to their reporter when interviewed? She may have told the reporter things which are provably untrue.


247 posted on 04/21/2006 6:35:26 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: TankerKC

I don't think this is the right person now.


248 posted on 04/21/2006 6:37:08 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: TankerKC

Kim Roberts' rap sheet says no known aliases.........hmmm


249 posted on 04/21/2006 6:38:08 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: GAgal
She may have told the reporter things which are provably untrue.

Didn't they indict Scooter Libby for that?

250 posted on 04/21/2006 6:38:38 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Warren_Piece

I meant to say the N&O editor says the paper didn't report all the accuser told them in the interview article. I wonder if confidentialy rules would prevent them from reporting now what they left out then?


251 posted on 04/21/2006 6:41:06 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: Carolinamom
Kim Roberts' rap sheet says no known aliases.........hmmm

I've followed so many links that I don't know where I read that now. It probably isn't right.

252 posted on 04/21/2006 6:43:47 AM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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To: OakOak

Look what happens when I go to bed....WOW


253 posted on 04/21/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mystery-ak

If you'd answer that phone!


254 posted on 04/21/2006 6:46:34 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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To: OakOak

And this is the woman that Rita thinks is a very credible witness....lmao


255 posted on 04/21/2006 6:49:36 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: TankerKC

There's a link in post #72 about Kim's court record.


256 posted on 04/21/2006 6:50:12 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Daily legal immigrant to FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Carolinamom

Catherine Crier sees nothing wrong with Kim hiring a PR firm.......lol......she's on Fox now


257 posted on 04/21/2006 6:52:11 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: OakOak

put me on your ping list


258 posted on 04/21/2006 6:52:44 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mystery-ak

I wonder how long it took Kim to embezzle $25,000? Was it done little by little over a matter of months? Unless it was a one time lapse in judgment, why wouldn't she have received any jail time?


259 posted on 04/21/2006 6:53:06 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: All

Fox is NOT reporting this right.. They keep saying that the woman wrote an e-mail and said she wants to know how to spin this to her benefit.

The more important thing she said was the SHE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY!

(A Gang Rape Case is an opportunity?) Maybe this supports the fact that she doesn't think there was a Gang Rape.


260 posted on 04/21/2006 6:53:38 AM PDT by OakOak ( ... Kim is quite a character. This Trial is made for TV!)
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