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Tension high in Duke caseN.C. stripper hides as TV shows pics
nydailynews.com ^ | April 20, 2006 | TAMER EL-GHOBASHY and DAVE GOLDINER

Posted on 04/20/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by mlc9852

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To: martin_fierro; Hemingway's Ghost

we must always ping HG to pix of his beloved....


361 posted on 04/20/2006 9:32:25 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Aliska
I've just read your other post. I'm sorry your life has been so hard. Probably many of the posters here have had life experiences which have been far from ideal. Or even, easy.

but many women have to work to support their children now and can't make it.

Ya ever spent time talking to the hundreds of thousands of men whose wives filed for divorce under "no fault laws", and find themselves charged as "child molestors", hit with heavy garnishments for child support which appears on their permanent records making their "employment" opportunities dwindled. How about the men being forced to raise children that aren't theirs?

We each have our crosses to bear.

I can't take your yelling or I would try to explain that some women just don't have IQ's over 100 which is no crime, and there are no good paying jobs for them.

I see this happening to men, too. What's your point?

362 posted on 04/20/2006 9:34:00 AM PDT by Alia
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To: mewzilla
No cop I know or ever knew would ever be able to hold his donut or coffee amidst his peers if they were responsible for the mess.

I suspect the DA has the reins.
363 posted on 04/20/2006 9:34:28 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Howlin
I'd say.

If I recall correctly the police report and the neighbor said the police arrived about 12:55 and left at 1:06 and found the house abandoned...

The neighbor say the strippers left 12:45 to 1:00.. But the cab driver say he saw the guys come out of the house at 1:01 and have a confrontation with a woman in jeans....

Someone is messed up...
364 posted on 04/20/2006 9:34:46 AM PDT by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: Carolinamom

Same with Levin. Noise and confusion signifying nothing.


365 posted on 04/20/2006 9:35:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Howlin; sissyjane; PleaseNoMore



Thank Pleasenomore for providing a link. His link says these are all PUBLIC records.

So here goes..

Go to Pleasenomore's Link:

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/raw1

and this is the Part you'll need (the DOC number)
0801264

Check ALL the boxes and look under SPECIAL CONDITIONS and SANCTIONS too

There you go .. pleasenomore.. there's the DOC number you needed.


366 posted on 04/20/2006 9:36:18 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief
It doesn't make any material difference for the transit time but keep in mind that maquest and google show the incorrect location for 610 N.Buchanan Blvd. The actual house is 3 houses north of the location that they show. zillow shows it correctly.
367 posted on 04/20/2006 9:36:20 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: investigateworld

What's with the "indict first" and "search premises" later? It doesn't make any sense.


368 posted on 04/20/2006 9:37:20 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: flada
Now that would give new meaning to Hot racking!
369 posted on 04/20/2006 9:37:44 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Howlin

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12405338/

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I remember one guy, he said in a loud voice, She's just a stripper.

COSBY: She's just a stripper?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

COSBY: That driver also took me on a ride-along, retracing what he says are Reade Seligmann's exact steps the night of the alleged assault. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COSBY: Moett (ph), where were you on March 14th?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: March 14th, I was here at the station (INAUDIBLE) and working by myself.

COSBY: And what call did you get?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got a call at 12:14, showing up here.

COSBY: 12:14 in the morning, you received a call.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

COSBY: Now, this number that we see here, at 12:14, whose phone number is this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This phone number belong to Reade.

COSBY: Reade Seligmann, who has now been charged in the Duke rape case.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, ma'am.

COSBY: How do you know for sure that you picked up Reade Seligmann?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know his face at the time, and I recognize him.

And I said I remember his face.

COSBY: So what time do you think you arrived there at the house?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I arrive at between, I guess between 12:19, yes.

COSBY: So just about five minutes later?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: About five minutes, yes.

COSBY: You picked them up on the corner. Then you came to this bank?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I came to the Wachovia bank machine, yes.

COSBY: And who took out money from the machine?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Reade.

COSBY: Reade Seligmann?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he come out this side door, and he went to the machine down there where he takes some money out.

COSBY: And was Reade the only one of the two who took out money?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I just remember just Reade at that time. I didn't remember the other guy went out.

COSBY: And how long did it take to drive here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the corner? Probably two or three minutes.

COSBY: Did you notice anything unusual about their behavior? Was he drunk at all?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he's little bit, but not that much drunk.

COSBY: Just a little drunk?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, not that drunk so he can't get out and can't get inside my car.

COSBY: So after the bank, where did you take him to?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I take them to Cook Out Restaurant.

COSBY: This restaurant right here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This restaurant right here.

COSBY: And this is open very late?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it's open very late, like maybe 3:00, 4:00 in the morning.

COSBY: After you left here, where did you take them?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After I left here, they said they wanted to go to the west campus (INAUDIBLE)

COSBY: To back to their dorm on campus?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back to the dorm on campus. That's where I took them to.

COSBY: And how much of a fare was it? How long were you with them?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: About 30-35 minutes, and they asked me how much it is. I told them about $17, $18, and they gave me—Reade, I believe, he gave me $25.

COSBY: So they gave you a pretty big tip?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A very big tip, yes.

COSBY: Is that why it stands out in your mind?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, because I'm with them a long time, they make my car smell. That's the only reason I have them in my mind.

COSBY: Well, his father showed up here. And when he saw the call, near the house, right, about a block away from the house, he said, “This is for sure my son's cell phone number”?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, ma'am.

COSBY: One hundred percent?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One hundred percent. He was jumped outside the—up inside the (INAUDIBLE) and he's happy.

COSBY: He was jumping up and down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jump up and down. He says, “Yes, I know my son called for a taxi at this time.”

COSBY: Moett (ph), how do you feel to know now you may be Reade Seligmann's alibi?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I'm so happy that I'm telling the truth. I'm so happy, if this guy is innocent, he didn't do anything, I'll so happy to see him out and do his normal life, as he is to do.

COSBY: And you're sure that it was Reade Seligmann that night?

You're sure you were with him for half-an-hour? You sure he took your cab?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I sure, yes. He's this guy, he called me. I sure I pick him up. I took him to that bank, and I took him to the cookout, where he got some food.

COSBY: No doubt in your mind it was definitely this man that night?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's him, no doubt, 100 percent.

COSBY: And you will testify under oath to that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure.

(END VIDEOTAPE)



(END VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSBY: Shocking new development tonight in the Duke rape investigation you'll see only right here on MSNBC. First, an interview with a cab driver whose story is a double-edged sword. The cabbie's story about taking Reade Seligmann, one of the suspects, home appears to match the young man's alibi, and that could very much help him. But get this. The cab driver's story may actually hurt some of the other players. He told me what happened after he dropped off Seligmann and then went back to the house for another call.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COSBY: You made a second pick-up that night near the house, one actually at the house. What did they say in the cab that was unusual to you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I remember one guy, he said in a loud voice, She's just a stripper.

COSBY: Do you think he was complaining about the stripper or something bad happened with the stripper?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no idea. I don't have any information about what's going on in the house.

COSBY: Now that you look back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. When I look back, he look like he mad at the stripper, or the stripper, she going to call the police and she's just a stripper.

COSBY: Did it seem to you that someone had been raped in the house and they were talking about a rape?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. My mind couldn't go that far away, but it

looked to me like somebody got hurt, but what kind of harm or what kind of

· I have no idea.

(END VIDEOTAPE)


370 posted on 04/20/2006 9:37:57 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
To say it is because of college boys this woman does what she does is downright insane.

Actually neither young adults or middle age men make her do anything. She chose this profession as a adult old enough to know how dangerous it could be, especially since the line between stripper and escort/prositute appears to be very thin. I think we are mostly in agreement here.

371 posted on 04/20/2006 9:39:06 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Enterprise
Sean's whole tone changed when he discovered that there had been racial slurs thrown at the woman.
372 posted on 04/20/2006 9:40:02 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: maggief

Cosby trying to put words in his mouth?

Couldn't be.........LOL.

And notice she says "near the house."

Of course, that could just be her words.


373 posted on 04/20/2006 9:41:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: investigateworld
I suspect the DA has the reins.

Jeepers, if that's the case the chief of police needs a spine implant.

374 posted on 04/20/2006 9:42:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mariabush

Shawn doesn't know that the women were insulting and demeaning.. Giving at least what they got.


375 posted on 04/20/2006 9:42:59 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: darbymcgill

Yep.


376 posted on 04/20/2006 9:43:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Now Megyn says "around" 1:00 am.


377 posted on 04/20/2006 9:43:12 AM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
I am not sympathetic towards the woman at all, but neither am I sympathetic towards the boys.
378 posted on 04/20/2006 9:43:30 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: elc
I can envision her looking at the Duke lacrosse team photo and pointing at the ones she thought would take the wrap. The only thing she did not anticipate is not everyone was at the house when she claimed the rape took place. This is where her story falls apart since events show that two of the accused were not at the house when the "rapes" occurred.

Has anyone questioned where she got the initial marks on her body that she claims were the result of the "rape"?
379 posted on 04/20/2006 9:43:54 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: mariabush

Well, you should be sympathetic towards the boys if they have been falsly accused of rape....Don't ya think??

Anyway we know how you feel, so you really don't need to share it again. Thanks.


380 posted on 04/20/2006 9:45:21 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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