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Attorney: No Plea Deal for Duke Player
abc11TV.com ^ | April 19, 2006

Posted on 04/19/2006 9:33:10 PM PDT by Howlin

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(04/19/06 - DURHAM) - An attorney for one of two Duke University lacrosse players charged with raping a stripper at a team party on Wednesday strongly rejected any sort of deal with prosecutors, proclaiming again his client's innocence.


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"I don't think there is any chance in hell that there will be a guilty plea," attorney Bill Cotter said. "I can't tell you about (everybody), but my client's case is either going to be dismissed by the D.A. or go to trial."

Cotter represents Collin Finnerty, who along with fellow sophomore Reade Seligmann was indicted Monday on charges of first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. Each posted $400,000 bond after their pre-dawn arrests early Tuesday, and both were released within hours.

School officials have declined to say whether it plans to discipline either of the players, although they have noted the university has historically suspended students charged with a felony.

Cotter said Wednesday that Finnerty, of Garden City, N.Y., has left Durham, although he wouldn't say where he went. Attorney Kirk Obsborn, representing Seligmann, of Essex Fells, N.J., declined to say whether his client has been suspended.

Seligmann and his father spent much of Wednesday working from the law office of attorney Robert Ekstrand, who represents dozens of uncharged lacrosse players.

District Attorney Mike Nifong, who has not granted interviews in weeks and said Tuesday he planned to make no comments about the case outside the courtroom, has said he still hopes to link a third man to the alleged attack.

He did not return calls Wednesday seeking comment about that effort, or about searches by Durham police Tuesday night of Seligmann's and Finnerty's dorm rooms.

Warrants authorizing the searches had not been returned to the court clerk's or magistrate's office by Wednesday evening.

"I can imagine they never quit investigating, but I think it's unusual to be executing search warrants after they've indicted," Cotter said.

Defense attorneys have said they have time-stamped photos from the party, bank records, cell phone calls and a taxi driver's statement to support Seligmann's claim of innocence.

A person close to the case told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the cell phone records show Seligmann called for a taxi at 12:14 a.m., and that according to sworn testimony he left in the taxi at 12:19 a.m.

The bank records show he stopped at an ATM five minutes later, the person added, while information provided by Duke shows he swiped an ID card to enter his dorm at 12:46 a.m.

A member of the defense team, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the defense is working with players who could still be indicted, showed photos to the AP on Wednesday that show the accuser on the back porch of the off-campus house, with her clothing intact. She is smiling and looking through her purse.

The defense team member said the digital photos were taken at 12:30 a.m., citing an electronic time-stamp known as metadata. Such time-stamps are not visible on the photos. They are created, though, when digital photos are taken.

The accuser, a 27-year-old student at a nearby college, told police she was attacked by three white men at a house where she and another woman were hired to dance at a lacrosse team party. According to defense attorneys, DNA tests conducted on all the players failed to connect any of the team members to the alleged rape.

"I would have to say she is definitely making it up," Cotter said.

Nifong has ordered additional DNA testing, which was originally performed at the state crime lab. Cotter said he believes those results should be "back any minute."

Ekstrand said the defense has also not yet received a report from authorities about any photo identifications of suspects made by the accuser. "I think we're entitled to the report of the identification procedure, and the results of the photo identifications she did," he said.

The allegations of rape led Duke to cancel the highly ranked lacrosse team's season, accept the resignation of the team's coach and begin a series of internal investigations, including one into the behavior of the lacrosse team.



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To: maggief

Thanks. That's the most complete timeline of seen matching Seligmann's activities to the photo evidence. As far as he is concerned, case closed. He didn't rape that woman.


181 posted on 04/20/2006 7:46:57 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: panthermom

One thing I forgot to mention is that the lacrosse team's collective behavior had previously come to the attention of school authorities, and the university president had previously told the coach to clean it up. Apparently, he didn't, and this was the last straw. So it wasn't quite as simple as I first thought, that the program was dumped solely on the basis of this one incident.


182 posted on 04/20/2006 7:50:17 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: investigateworld

After that DC detective's interview on BO last night, I have a feeling that Durham Police already know quite a bit about this woman.

The detective said that the police know where she was earlier in the evening and that she had been intoxicated before the party.


183 posted on 04/20/2006 7:54:59 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Howlin

The more I think of this, instead of saying "No deal for players" the attorneys should be saying "No deal for prosecutor to get out of his bind"


184 posted on 04/20/2006 7:56:34 AM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: Mad-Margaret

Also, the fact that the Durham police are leaking to the detective tells us they aren't comfortable with the whole thing. They had to know he was going to appear on BO's show...


185 posted on 04/20/2006 7:58:04 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: maggief
Thanks for the new TL, I was just going to ask for one... There are one or two items that are missing that seem relevant to me.

1. When the strippers left the room at 12:04, did they go directly to the BR or did they leave the house and come back in? If they left the house, did they get all the way to the car? If so that reduces the amount of time they could have been in the BR.

2. The neighbor says the one stripper was in the car at sometime between 12:20 and 12:30 she got out and went back to "get her shoe"

3. Are the photos which begin at 12:30 of her on the back porch after she got out of the car the first time and is trying to get back in?

The guy who took the pictures of her on the back porch knows everything there is to know about this case. Whatever happened when she went back to get her shoe. Either she got back in the house and was thrown out the back door and fell down the steps. Or she fell on her own.

She's looking for something while on the porch. Could be the money they shoved under the door that she forgot or something else that may have distracted her and caused her to fall and hurt her leg.

When she falls or is pushed, now she's really pi$$ed, threatens to call someone, police, pimp, or both. That's why the guys cleared out so fast.... and hence the comments made in CAB #2...

But the time line, if updated could indicate that the windows of opportunity for 30 minutes of kicking, choking and raping are growing smaller....
186 posted on 04/20/2006 7:58:24 AM PDT by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: krb

I said days ago dropping the charges will never be enough for these boys and their families; and the lawyers are furious -- they're as mad as any attorneys I've seen in all my days in court.


187 posted on 04/20/2006 8:00:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mad-Margaret
It is every cop's nightmare when a DA takes operational control of an investigation. Sounds like DPD has just stood back and said "OK, you're the man, we'll do it your way".

I suspect these guys are doing memorandums for the record for when the SHTF, showing they tried to keep the train from jumping the tracks.

Ahhh Retirement!
188 posted on 04/20/2006 8:02:27 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Howlin

Could you please put me on your ping list?


189 posted on 04/20/2006 8:03:03 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: OakOak

Thanks. And hopefully, we will be able to view those warrants soon. But I was wondering if anyone knew if all previous warrants had been unsealed. Was the McFayden warrant the only one sealed and then later unsealed or were there more?


190 posted on 04/20/2006 8:04:53 AM PDT by I want to know
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To: connectthedots
To me this is the truth because I noticed the Durham chief of police was rolling his eyes to the ceiling while DipThong(thanks Michael Savage) was holding one of his little media conferences a couple of weeks ago. Also, someone posted that they also noticed at that same presser, when the C.O.P was asked a question about the investigation he made a comment like, 'the DA says investigation is moving along, that means its moving along.' (something like that). I remember someone posted the comment on the forum, because they thought it was odd, and was an indication the C.O.P was not happy. Very perceptive, because now it's been mentioned by the former detective on O'Reilly that the Durham Police are not happy.

It was me. It was a TV interview at the NCCU hate fest. However, I'm not sure it was the C.O.P. See here for some links about that

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615023/posts?page=146#146 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615023/posts?page=44#44

191 posted on 04/20/2006 8:08:13 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Mad-Margaret

That detective also stated that NOTHING SHE HAS SAID REGARDING THAT EVENING CHECKS OUT, and as far as they were concerned she has VERY LITTLE CREDIBILITY.

Duham PD knows where this is going and they don't want to be hit when the sh!t hits the fan.


192 posted on 04/20/2006 8:09:16 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Locomotive Breath

Maybe links are goofed up:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615023/posts?page=146#146

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615023/posts?page=44#44


193 posted on 04/20/2006 8:11:01 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: windcliff

Sure.


194 posted on 04/20/2006 8:11:50 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ccwoman
If just a year old photo can change so much than just the fact that the lacrosse team team had a druken party with a stripper should ruin these college students.

You would judge them so? Fit for ruin over a single dalience? You're scales are crooked.

And NO means NO means NO! IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO OR WHAT A PERSON HAS DONE IN THE PAST! If the stripper said NO the guys should have backed off.

They will prove their innocence at trial, though it is shameful that they must.

195 posted on 04/20/2006 8:14:03 AM PDT by Dosa26
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To: investigateworld

Do you think there's any signifigance that they leaked to a black detective?


196 posted on 04/20/2006 8:14:45 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom
And I wonder if they're doing every thing they can to undermine his election bid because if we wins they'll have to deal with him for another 4 years. There could be some significant word of mouth in the part of the community that would otherwise be inclined to vote for Nifong.
197 posted on 04/20/2006 8:18:01 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: panthermom

FWIW, I think that's very significant. They don't want to be in the way when the tree falls...


198 posted on 04/20/2006 8:18:20 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: panthermom
Yes, I don't know what's going on inside of course, but there is a strong possibility that Nifong has gone over the line at some point.

If it can be documented and sustained, there could be Federal prison time for those involved. These cops are stuck between a hard place and a rock. For their sake and for the future of law enforcement in this country, I'm hoping there doing the CYA bit if ya know what I mean ;-)
199 posted on 04/20/2006 8:28:50 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Locomotive Breath

It is absolutely frightening to me that a DA, elected to be an advocate for the people of the community would do such a horrible thing for personal gain. He is blind with ambition. Hopefully more than 50% of Durham is sane and show up to get rid of this guy. BTW, are there any comments regarding this from 2 running against him?


200 posted on 04/20/2006 8:29:13 AM PDT by panthermom
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