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Expectant mom dies in collision on Easter Sunday
Birmingham News ^ | 4/17/06 | KIM BRYAN and JEREMY GRAY

Posted on 04/19/2006 8:15:37 AM PDT by Full Court

Expectant mom dies in collision

Monday, April 17, 2006
KIM BRYAN and JEREMY GRAY
News staff writers

A 27-year-old expectant mother died in a head-on collision Sunday on U.S. 31 in Shelby County, authorities said.

Sarah Porter, 27, of Jemison died in the 11:20 a.m. accident, said Sgt. Tim Sartain, Alabama State Troopers spokesman. She was six months pregnant, said Doug Ballard Jr., Shelby County coroner.

Her husband, 29-year-old Heath Porter, remained in critical condition at UAB Hospital Sunday night, said Bob Shepherd, hospital spokesman.

Marco Guarviola, 26, address unknown, a passenger in the 2003 Chevrolet pickup truck that collided with the Porters' 2002 Volkswagen, was also taken to UAB Hospital, where he was listed as critical Sunday night, Shepherd said.

Manuel Valdez, 22, address unknown, who was also in the truck, was taken to Princeton Baptist Medical Center. Efforts to reach a hospital spokesman Sunday night were unsuccessful.

The accident, which occurred in the Saginaw community just south of Alabaster, is under investigation, Sartain said. He declined to provide details.

Several serious accidents have occurred at the site, Sartain said.

"I don't understand why so many accidents have occurred at this particular location," Sartain said. "Traffic is moderately heavy, but the street is a straight, two-lane stretch."

Accident fatalities are always sad, Sartain said.

"But this happening on Easter Sunday is such a tragedy," he said.

E-mail: kbryan@bhamnews.com


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To: Full Court
I personally do not know how traumatic the Hispanics injuries were.

You don't know they were Mexican or illegal either.

381 posted on 04/20/2006 7:51:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: null and void
Good morning.
"People tend to swear in their native tongue."

I tend to swear in the language of the person I'm swearing at. It eliminates confusion and speeds up the process of bringing things to a conclusion.

Michael Frazier
382 posted on 04/20/2006 7:51:41 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Full Court
Because if the borders were secure and those two were in Mexico on Sunday where they belong, a young woman expecting her first baby would still be alive.

You keep saying that. That it is a logical imponderability is obviously lost on you.

If she'd dropped her keys on the way to the car and delayed her trip by another ten seconds, she'd still be alive.

If the other driver hadn't stopped at Taco Bell and gotten the extra large diet coke and been five minutes further down the road, she'd still be alive.

If a certain teenager last week in an uninvolved car miles away had been distracted by a phonecall from her boyfriend at just the right moment, she'd have died last week in a t-bone accident instead of this week in a head-on.

If my aunt had cajones... she'd be my uncle.

383 posted on 04/20/2006 7:52:35 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius

None of the other activities you listed are AGAINST THE LAW.

Since when did this disrespect for the law and our Constitution spring up on Freerepublic?


384 posted on 04/20/2006 8:03:32 AM PDT by Full Court (Proverbs 10:7  ¶The memory of the just is blessed "In memory of my Aunt Ruby")
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To: Corin Stormhands
The article says "address unknown." That's all that means.

How do you drive legally without your license on your person, which has your address on it?

385 posted on 04/20/2006 8:04:54 AM PDT by Full Court (Proverbs 10:7  ¶The memory of the just is blessed "In memory of my Aunt Ruby")
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To: Corin Stormhands
Or a visa.

Babe, I'm a tenth generation descendant of a man who arrived here in 1725 and was given a land grant in NC by Lord Granville.

My kin have served in every war fought by this country.

386 posted on 04/20/2006 8:07:12 AM PDT by Full Court (Proverbs 10:7  ¶The memory of the just is blessed "In memory of my Aunt Ruby")
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To: Full Court
They were undocumented. Take that to mean what you will

Oh jeesh. You said "illegal", not "undocumented".

Nice try.

387 posted on 04/20/2006 8:08:37 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Full Court
How do you drive legally without your license on your person, which has your address on it?

My person does not have my address on it. Call your editor.

That said, do you really believe that driving without a license means a person is an illegal immigrant?

You're jumping to conclusions.

388 posted on 04/20/2006 8:09:03 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Now, now, be fair. We CAN verify that it was Easter Sunday!


389 posted on 04/20/2006 8:09:43 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Full Court
Because if the borders were secure and those two were in Mexico on Sunday where they belong, a young woman expecting her first baby would still be alive.

Oh! You must have found a source! You are once again asserting that the drivers are illegal Mexican immigrants.

Source???

390 posted on 04/20/2006 8:09:55 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Full Court

LOL... What...?

Good grief... that's funny. It's like talking to a random word generator. You don't actually read what other people write, do you... you have posts all composed in advance and just paste them in...? Or do you just open a dictionary, point to a word, and figure out how to work it in to your next post?

I may have to experiment a little and see if I can get back something predictable or even comprehensible.


391 posted on 04/20/2006 8:10:28 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Full Court
Babe, I'm a tenth generation descendant of a man who arrived here in 1725 and was given a land grant in NC by Lord Granville.

I'll see your Lord Granville and raise you a Virginia land grant by the king. Late 1600s.

Unless you want to count my American Indian ancestors.

'course that's undocumented.

392 posted on 04/20/2006 8:11:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: brazzaville
Perhaps some industrious FReeper can ferret out the nationality of the two young men with Hispanic names and no known addresses who were involved in the wreck in Alabama.

I've been asking Full Court for that information for almost 24 hours now. She's the one that posted that they were illegal Mexican immigrants in the first place, so the burden is on ~her~ to back it up.

393 posted on 04/20/2006 8:11:32 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Full Court

My ancestors were Vikings. They were undocumented pretty much everywhere, except here. :-P

But we got here first, so neener neener neener.


394 posted on 04/20/2006 8:13:24 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius
But we got here first, so neener neener neener.

*snort*

395 posted on 04/20/2006 8:13:50 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: RMDupree

Maybe it's not her fault. Maybe she's never actually *met* a person with a hispanic surname that wasn't illegal. Maybe she's never heard of Carlos Santana. Me... I never really believed that Emilio Estevez looked hispanic anyway... but you never really know for sure...


396 posted on 04/20/2006 8:17:17 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
You're jumping to conclusions.

It's this mat, see... and it has different... ~conclusions~ on it...

397 posted on 04/20/2006 8:21:37 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius; RMDupree
What if the drivers were just using the Ron Mexico Name Generator?

Hello Corin Stormhands! Your Ron Mexico name, the ultimate disguise, is Jan Equatorial Guinea.

398 posted on 04/20/2006 8:22:06 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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To: RMDupree
Good morning.
"You're the one that is acting defensively..."

Actually, this thread is rolling along the way it is because you and a few others bristled up at the suggestion that these two young men with Hispanic names and no known addresses might be illegal and/or to blame for the accident.

The fact that illegals without licenses and insurance causing accidents is common enough to lead a reader to assume that illegals caused the wreck should catch your attention. Why doesn't it?

Michael Frazier
399 posted on 04/20/2006 8:23:13 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville; RMDupree
Actually, this thread is rolling along the way it is because you and a few others bristled up at the suggestion that these two young men with Hispanic names and no known addresses might be illegal and/or to blame for the accident.

What we "bristled" at was the undocumented assertion that they 1) were illegal and 2) were Mexican.

The assumptions were presented as facts.

If the requested documentation (yet non-existent) had been provided, this thread would have been over yesterday.

400 posted on 04/20/2006 8:27:36 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has expired.)
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