Ahem...
Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
I think that Duke president needs to go.
The destruction of the lives that have been trashed by this woman and this DA are immesaurable.
And if they could get a hummer from them, then surely those girls would take off their clothes if they were asked.
Yet these guys paid $800 to two falling down drunk, bruised and abused black girls to strip for them?
You are under no obligation to talk to the cops. Besides, the DA said the alleged rape occurred in the bathroom. So, if there was a rape, you couldn't possibly have seen it happen.
Ahem...
Hell, nothing would surprise me at this point. Mangum's story has changed a few times already; how long until her "100%" ID of Seligmann is called an innocent mistake and some other poor sap gets charged.
There's actually a word for them .. "lacrosstitutes".
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Sports/US/story?id=1842967&page=1
The boys say she was in the bathroom with the accuser in that timeframe. The accuser said she was alone with the three boys in the bathroom. It can't be both.
What is the second stripper saying?
CNN just said that the prosecutors have TOLD them the name of the player they are still investigation, "But we cannot release it at this time."
HE TOLD THEM WHO HE THINKS THE THIRD PLAYER IS????????
By "evidence", they mean Crystal Mangum has "100%" ID'd a third suspect and Nifong is somewhat sure that he possibly was present at the party.
Prosecutor [to Claude]: And this, sir, is the same tape that your engineer retrieved from the video camera that monitors the activity in your brewery?Claude: Yes, and I'd like to point out that this tape have not been tampered with or edited in any way. It even has a time code on it, and those are very difficult to fake.
Judge: For the benefit of the court, will you please explain 'time code'?
Claude: Just because I don't know what it is doesn't mean I'm lying!
Sorry. I think I've watched Strange Brew one too many times. :-/
She's saying a lot of diffrent stuff, including the fact that the accuser was stoned drunk or drugged, which, of course, begs the question, "How could she identify who attacked her?"
The second stripper also called the cops to report racial slurs that night. She was called a n****r. I think this whole thing was cooked up by both of them as payback.
All of the white players on the team were required to submit DNA samples. I would think that this would lend to the argument that they are at least potential suspects and thus they could exercise their rights not to answer questions.
The only way that I can see for Nifong to get around this is to grant the players full immunity.
The player that I see Nifong pressing hard is the black player.
TO CNN?!
If true, that is disgusting and Nifong deserves every bad thing that can happen to him.
I know leaks happen, but publicly acknowledging where they came from is something new.... and almost unbelievable.
Yes, to CNN.
Your analysis would be up to your usual analytical standards if a photo had been snapped during each minute, which is far from the case.
I notice that this photo and the preceeding one -- i.e., the first two -- are time-stamped without showing any odd seconds. Subsequent photos all show odd seconds. Do we know that they were done with the same camera?
(I admired your analysis of Nifong's reasoning but abandoned a reply because I was getting too deep in the weeds and I am too lazy to work that hard for no pay!)
So she was brutally gangraped before the photos by the Duke players, decided to stay and dance anyhow, went and did her fingernails, came back out again, and then left without mentioning any of this to Kim?
Interesting theory, but it isn't up to the Duke Boys to prove their innocence. Nifong needs to have evidence of what happened at what time.
Maybe Nifong hopes the reporter will tell the boy's attorney and he will "turn" on the rest of the team and come clean about that coverup he thinks is going on.
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