Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
That would be Tiffany Millions, the official Porn Star of the Howie Carr Show.
>>The above being said I doubt that the apparent quality of the pictures to show bruises etc., came from a phone camera.
Cameraphone camera quality has come a long way, quickly. If you're saying this based on cameraphone pic quality from a unit from, say, 2 years ago, you need to see what the new ones can do.
when the writing is rambling and non-concise, I do occasionally- but at least we agree on the main point.
It makes as much sense as you saying he was getting out money for the cab or for the next day. You have nothing to support your theory either. As far as I can tell, none of us know at this point why he was taking money out of the ATM. It sounds to me like the only reason this helps him is that it proves he was not at the house at the time she claims the alleged rape occurred. I don't know if why he was taking out money even matters.
those are your words- in fact, I did have his dorm card to support my theory- back to the drawing board, jenjen
When you organize private parties involving strippers you are already leaving decency and prudence behind. Sure, it may be legal, but it's not an especially good thing to do.
I'm not at all saying that what the prosecutor and the stripper are doing is right. I think it's despicable and evil. But these young men put their hands through the bars of the lion's cage and they got bitten.
It sounds all goody-two-shoes and all that, I'm sure. It's not necessary to believe in a personal devil to b e able to profit from millenia of wisdom and experience that lead to the conclusion that when you step over the line the consequences may be very disproportional. They did what they knew or should have known to be wrong, they exploited a woman (whether or not she invited exploitation is another question) and they pretty much cracked open the hell-mouth.
And ... Blammo! Bad stuff came out.
So, yeah, let's hope the woman and the prosecutor get what's coming to them, let's lament the injustice. But let's not be astonished.
Hey, people. Let's cut out the "ho" remarks. Don't sink to the level of these race-baiters.
I watched the video.
So, she stole a cab after stripping for the guy, got chased by the cops and tried to run over one.
Your lawyer is some POS.
Not like it is a secret, I just wasn't looking in the right place.
Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 33,100 for Crystal Gail Mangum
According to the main article, the lawyers have a cell phone record of him calling the cab at 12:14 and withdrawing money at 12:4?. So even if a cab never picked him up (although the article says he was picked up at 12:24), that would mean he would have had to walk to the ATM, leaving him no time at all to rape the woman. As long as his cell phone records hold up, there is no hole in the alibi.
Not really, I found at least 30 listings for taxi's in Durham.
History has a way of repeating itself. The illustrious Rev Al Sharpton is nudging his way into the spotlight defending this liar.
These boys are going to be the scapegoats for 400 years of slavery. That's what this whole case is about, getting even with whitey.
"And he took a cab to an ATM that was a 15 minute walk away?"
In Durham at midnight? Shirley you jest.
One report indicated that after the ATM, the cab took him to a fast food place before going back to the dorm.
Actually, I've had to go to an ATM just before and after midnight to get cash for a trip the next morning. My bank only allows a specific cash withdrawl on any given day, and I foolishly had forgotten to go the bank for a withdrawl.
Except he went to his dorm. Lets see leave the party off campus, stop at ATM to get cash, go to dorm. Yeah, that is what I would do if I was looking for a little action. (SARCASM ON).
Besides after cab rides to and from the party, buying booze, and any other expenditures he was likely to need some cash.
It doesnt say how much he got from the ATM. If it was for the ho, I cant imagine it was more than $25.
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