Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:
Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.
Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.
12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.
Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.
It was after 12:00 a.m., the hos had just shown up and he was likely drunk. I'll go out on a limb here, folks - he was after cash either for the hos or for a cab ride back to the dorm; he was not planning for the next day. This is a matter of simple common sense. If he withdrew $20, it was likely for the cab ride. If he withdrew significantly more than $20, it was likely for the hos.
That being said, like the rest of you I don't believe a crime was committed. I was merely pointing out in my first post that the timeline posted is not necessarily exculpatory in and of itself.
Huh? She was in the Kroger parking lot at 12:53 am.
The first 911 call was made at 1am. Keep up, Dentist! ;)
I was thinking the same thing. Also, who took the pictures of her in the car with the other dancer and why? Were these pictures taken by the players?
you stopped making sense three posts ago
As a "sex worker."
Since you know nothing of the facts involved, why are you speculating about anything?
It is illogical.
Sorry, but the timeline doesn't say that, so how would I know. It barely mentions where she was, nd only details where he was.
There you go again! Clouding the issue with facts, common sense and logic.
Sheeesh!!
Yeah, whatever. Most people who aren't familiar with the area wouldn't take Markham. They would drive down Duke St. to Main St to get on the Freeway and go up a couple exits to Hillsborough right near the Kroger. Otherwise, even if they did take Markham there are a bunch of lights through there, and it'd hardly be difficult for the idealized 4 minute trip on paper to turn into a 10 minute trip, especially since if you get caught by one light they seem timed so that just about all of them get you..
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It is possible that the boys at the party took up a collection to pay the "dancers" earlier in the evening. If this young man had contributed to the pot, he could have simply been out of cash.
I heard a former porn star promoting a book on a radio show. Tiffany something.
Caller asks "Is that your real name" "Tiffany [whatever]? Get real."
I looked up Cristal Magnum. Sale price $349.99...
Perhaps a more details timeline should be presented.
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good point about them watching her on the ground but they did help her into the car,
Is the DA exempt from charges of malicious prosecution or some similar offense?
We're trying to get Howlin or one of the other regulars to post a "known facts" running thread so newcomers can get up to speed. Some of them have been following this case for weeks!
Many guys drunk alone with a couple of strippers is not a good combination! Honestly these boys should have never put themself in this situation, such stupidity! And these women, well their entire profession is stupidity and it is a shame they do such risky jobs like this!
I don't know who to believe or what the truth is. I'm not going to call the alleged victims liars cause I don't know the truth. Same as I'm not going to call the alleged rapist rapists!! This entire thing is crazy and who knows what really happend.
True though something stinks about it so in time I think we will find out the real truth and the right people will be charged with a crime and convicted for it!
Just curious. Where were the girls before 12 am?
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