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To: Mad-Margaret

So, if there's no genetic material on or in the woman, on what grounds can they even take these two men into custody? It's like lack of evidence means nothing anymore.


3 posted on 04/18/2006 3:31:22 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I am really unhappy with the legal system these days.

This is nothing more then a political ploy.


5 posted on 04/18/2006 3:32:32 AM PDT by jmc1969
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To: Froufrou

It’s possible the accuser picked them out from a photo lineup – but that would be meaningless in court because she saw all the men at the party.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 3:42:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Froufrou

Probably 21 year olds, charged with supplying alcohol to 20 year olds, or something a little more heinous, conspiracy to lie, and lying.


28 posted on 04/18/2006 3:55:58 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: Froufrou

Nifong and the obvioiusly false accuser are the real criminals in this case.


140 posted on 04/18/2006 5:25:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Froufrou

OH they have PLENTY of Evidence.

A woman made the accusation

See?

They are already guilty.


172 posted on 04/18/2006 5:45:05 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Froufrou

You can rape a woman with objects and not leave genetic material.


181 posted on 04/18/2006 5:48:14 AM PDT by notigar
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To: Froufrou
So, if there's no genetic material on or in the woman, on what grounds can they even take these two men into custody? It's like lack of evidence means nothing anymore.

Considering how much we really know abut the case.....I don't think one can come to any conclusion yet.

235 posted on 04/18/2006 6:06:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Froufrou

"It's like lack of evidence means nothing anymore."

Especially for the lib/socialists. Remember their mantra:
"It's the seriousness of the charge" (that counts -- not facts, evidence, etc.)


326 posted on 04/18/2006 6:40:37 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Froufrou

You might not think the evidence is reliable, but there is the testimony of the alleged victim.

I agree that conviction, especially on a rape charge, lacking the smoking gun as it were, will be difficult. A plea to a lesser charge, some sort of assault charge, might be the resolution. If you send it to the jury, it's a crapshoot for both sides. As has been noted by others, jury selection becomes paramount.

As far as the TRUTH goes. I cetainly don't know exactly what happended. But it wouldn't be the first time young men used a little muscle in their carnal pursuits. And, if it happended, it wouldn't be the first time a woman was slipped a mickey.


377 posted on 04/18/2006 6:59:24 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Froufrou
"So, if there's no genetic material on or in the woman, on what grounds can they even take these two men into custody?"

Rape does not have to occur with the P-n-s. Have you ever heard of a broom stick or lets say LaCross Stick?

547 posted on 04/18/2006 7:58:38 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Froufrou

The only thing we really know about this case is a woman filed a complaint, and a defense attorney says there was no DNA linking anyone to the alleged crime. All is heresay. I don't think any DA would take something to a grand jury with no evidence and get an indictment.

I'll be sitting back to wait and see how this unfolds before passing any judgement.


569 posted on 04/18/2006 8:06:31 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: Froufrou

"Nifong, bolstered by a medical exam that found injuries on the woman consistent with sexual assault.."


580 posted on 04/18/2006 8:11:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Froufrou

My understanding is that if a prosecutor claims a black woman can identify two white men who she claims raped her, with no evidence whatsoever, the offending ham sandwiches are to be swat-smacked at 4am and dragged away in handcuffs. This is entirely the prosecution's circus act. There is no need for evidence at this point. What is unusual is that DNA evidence, which normally takes a long time, seems to have excluded the boys before the grand jury even met to consider the charges. I guess when you have a claim of rape, and the victim says "there they are", you have to go forward...


633 posted on 04/18/2006 8:25:26 AM PDT by Sender (“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.” – Old Chinese proverb)
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To: Froufrou

Just because there was no DNA doesn't mean there is no evidence of rape. Vaginal tearing, for example. A doctor is able to look at a woman and tell if there has been signs of any forced sex.

What do you think that before the days of DNA rape didn't exist and was never tried as a crime for lack of evidence?


787 posted on 04/18/2006 9:03:07 AM PDT by FieldsS
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