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To: Spiff
"Do you also suggest that if being raped, one should just lay back and enjoy it?"

You do understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration, don't you? The legal crowd is educated, technically savvy and probably the people you, your children or your grandchildren will be working for.

161 posted on 04/04/2006 2:42:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods
>If you want SS in retirement, you had better be
>willing to welcome legal immigrants.

Do you also suggest that if being raped, one should just lay back and enjoy it?

>You do understand the difference between legal and
>illegal immigration, don't you? The legal crowd is
>educated, technically savvy and probably the people
>you, your children or your grandchildren will be
>working for.

You stated that if we wanted to live off money stolen by the government from current workers (after decades of having money stolen from our own paychecks to feed the current leeches) that we needed to accept the currently insane levels of legal immigration pushed through by Ted Kennedy in 1965. I used the analogy that we were already being raped - as in, our hard earned pay is being stolen by a socialistic ponzi scheme to feed aging parasites who did not properly plan for their gray years - and now we have to lie back and enjoy it by allowing millions of legal immigrants who depress wages, overcrowd our cities and schools, and are increasingly refusing to assimilate into American culture and somehow we have to pretend that is a good thing.

I know the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is absolutely intolerable and the current insane legal immigration policies as pushed through by Ted Kennedy in 1965 are almost as intolerable.

Foreign workers coming on H1-B and L1 visas are unlikely to ever leave and most don't. They are willing to work for wages lower than any American worker will ever want to work. This depresses the wages in many industries. They don't ask for the same benefits either and this causes industries who hire them to start eliminating those benefits at the expense of American workers who expect them. The promise of pushing manufacturing to Mexico and overseas locations in the 1990 was that it would cause America's workforce to go to high tech, better paying jobs. The knife in the back is the advent of the H1-B and L1 visas which let in, on their own, another 500,000 workers per year to take American jobs. Add this to the massive move to outsource American high tech jobs to places like China and India where workers will work for 50% to 30% of what an American worker expects.

Are you getting the picture yet? Legal immigration is not necessarily the panacea everyone pretends it is. I am not proposing a permanent stop to legal immigration. I propose a moratorium on it until we can control who is actually coming through our borders and working in our country and then we'll start letting in legal migrants on our own terms and only when it can be proven to benefit America first and not benefit a foreign nation, and multi-national corporation who no longer owes their allegiance to America, or any other entity other than red, white, and blue Americans.

165 posted on 04/04/2006 6:55:42 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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