Looks like ID may finally have produced a result. Now play nice. It's all fun and games, till someone loses an eye.
1 posted on
04/01/2006 10:50:29 AM PST by
Condorman
To: PatrickHenry
What do you think? One for the ping list?
2 posted on
04/01/2006 10:51:54 AM PST by
Condorman
(Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
To: Condorman
Hmm...an unexplained gene in this very attractive bird. And that's evidence of Intelligent Design? I don't see how.
Is it yet to be explained? Perhaps. Is it evidence of ID? Again, it is evidence only that there is a gene unique to this species in that position. Why? Well...more study is needed.
Were I an ID advocate, I'd be just as cautious as anyone about proclaiming this as proof of that odd hypothesis.
3 posted on
04/01/2006 10:53:54 AM PST by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: Condorman
I have to ask, in that picture is that its tail hanging way down that far?
To: Condorman
Please provide a working link to this article. Thanks.
To: Condorman; Tribune7; Michael_Michaelangelo; scripter; editor-surveyor; metmom; DaveLoneRanger; ...
What we found is a gene with no evolutionary precursor, Nice, but I would like to see the raw data, not that I don't trust an AP story...
10 posted on
04/01/2006 10:57:47 AM PST by
AndrewC
(Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
To: Condorman
What do we call this, the April 1 gene?
A weak attempt at humor that unitentionally may track with the sort of the thing that actually happens.
There are intricate irreducibly complex marvels tucked away in genome that await an appropriate trigger. One of those triggers almost certainly is natural selection. Indeed, natural selection could be the sole trigger and be perfectly consistent with ID theory.
11 posted on
04/01/2006 11:00:11 AM PST by
JCEccles
To: Condorman
Spontaneous or chaotic mutation?
13 posted on
04/01/2006 11:01:14 AM PST by
El Sordo
To: Condorman
Brilliant little April Fools joke!
14 posted on
04/01/2006 11:01:35 AM PST by
Quick1
(Censorship: the worst obscenity.)
To: Condorman
20 posted on
04/01/2006 11:17:42 AM PST by
jec41
(Screaming Eagle)
To: Condorman
"Looks like ID may finally have produced a result."
This is indeed intriguing. I've met Dr. Harl before, and if he backs this then I have no choice but to believe it. I am also very familiar with The Natural World . It's a pretty respectable journal.
This could change our entire understanding of biology. Fascinating read!
35 posted on
04/01/2006 12:02:04 PM PST by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Condorman
Good try, but too late. Darwin Central has already sprung into action. Dr. Peter Harl? WHAT "Dr. Peter Harl"? The entire "University of Nebraska" from the historical record too if need be. Bwahahahahahaha!
43 posted on
04/01/2006 12:23:40 PM PST by
Stultis
(I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
To: Condorman
There's no link to the source. What gives?
To: Condorman; PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
The researchers undoubtedly would have saved Federal grant money, time and trouble had they consulted a reputable ornithologist prior to trekking into the jungles of Central America in their Intelligent Design research.
It is without dispute among leading ornithologists that the British Bluetit preceded or,
wrote the song, if you will, the
creation or evolution of the Central American turquoise browed mot mot.
The British Bluetit has also been long revered for its rapturous song.
Listen to the bird sing.
45 posted on
04/01/2006 12:29:19 PM PST by
bd476
(It is with great trepidation one wanders onto a Creation Evolution thread, please be gentle ;-))
To: Condorman
I did a little more research and found out that the gene that these researchers found, the BS 4u gene, may not be quite as new as this report makes it sound. It is polylitally zygometic with a gene, BS ru, found in a closely related species, Hylomanes momotula . We'll just have to see how this holds up.
47 posted on
04/01/2006 12:42:13 PM PST by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Condorman
Good one! :)
I'm a big fan of this day myself. ;)
70 posted on
04/01/2006 2:15:53 PM PST by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: Condorman
Ahhh, April Fool's Day...
78 posted on
04/01/2006 2:37:32 PM PST by
RightWingAtheist
(Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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80 posted on
04/01/2006 3:19:13 PM PST by
wallcrawlr
(http://www.bionicear.com)
To: Condorman
Glad to see you're still here. Hope it's still true on April 2.
83 posted on
04/01/2006 3:29:09 PM PST by
VadeRetro
(I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
To: Condorman
Interesting. But hardly "proof".
92 posted on
04/01/2006 4:48:29 PM PST by
curmudgeonII
(One man...and the Lord...are a majority.)
To: Condorman
Looks like we'll have to wait for details.
It's unusual that there are no links to this story in any of the usual suspects' websites.
And it's unusual that the University of Nebraska doesn't list a Dr. Peter Harl on their faculty.
But they'll get published, I'm sure.
I don't see how this is evidence for ID in any case. ID doesn't believe in genes. And it's still just a songbird.
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