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Skull discovery could fill origins gap
Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | Fri Mar 24, 11:02 AM ET

Posted on 03/24/2006 11:47:46 AM PST by The_Victor

ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - A hominid skull discovered in Ethiopia could fill the gap in the search for the origins of the human race, a scientist said on Friday.

The cranium, found near the city of Gawis, 500 km (300 miles) southeast of the capital Addis Ababa, is estimated to be 200,000 to 500,000 years old.

The skull appeared "to be intermediate between the earlier Homo erectus and the later Homo sapiens," Sileshi Semaw, an Ethiopian research scientist at the Stone Age Institute at Indiana University, told a news conference in Addis Ababa.

It was discovered two months ago in a small gully at the Gawis river drainage basin in Ethiopia's Afar region, southeast of the capital.

Sileshi said significant archaeological collections of stone tools and numerous fossil animals were also found at Gawis.

"(It) opens a window into an intriguing and important period in the development of modern humans," Sileshi said.

Over the last 50 years, Ethiopia has been a hot bed for archaeological discoveries.

Hadar, located near Gawis, is where in 1974 U.S. scientist Donald Johnson found the 3.2 million year old remains of "Lucy," described by scientists as one of the greatest archaeological discoveries in the world.

Lucy is Ethiopia's world-acclaimed archaeological find. The discovery of the almost complete hominid skeleton was a landmark in the search for the origins of humanity.

On the shores of what was formerly a lake in 1967, two Homo sapien skulls dating back 195,000 years were unearthed. The discovery pushed back the known date of mankind, suggesting that modern man and his older precursor existed side by side.

Sileshi said while different from a modern human, the braincase, upper face and jaw of the cranium have unmistakeable anatomical evidence that belong to human ancestry.

"The Gawis cranium provides us with the opportunity to look at the face of one of our ancestors," he added.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: crevolist; godsgravesglyphs; missinglink; origins; stillmissing
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To: The_Victor
Here's the only picture from their website I could find:

From the press release, it sounds like they also found an upper jaw in addition to what's pictured here.

41 posted on 03/24/2006 12:50:17 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
"If I could be in a line of work where I could provide an answer such as "anywhere from 200,000 to 500,000 years old" in response to a question like "how old is this skeleton," and GET PAID for that answer, I would have a much less stressful life.
Sheesh."

It still wasn't carbon dated.

And the bones of the three individuals you mentioned would be called human.

:)
42 posted on 03/24/2006 12:51:04 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: PatrickHenry

I'd love to see photos of it.


43 posted on 03/24/2006 12:53:07 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
If I could be in a line of work

Well go for it.

All it takes is 8 years of University, a higher than average intelligence,
and a burning desire to find the truth.

44 posted on 03/24/2006 12:53:11 PM PST by ASA Vet (Condi would be a coup in the NFL)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Would these scientists describe three DIFFERENT species? Of course they would! And it would ALSO be ridiculous.

In addition to what Coyoteman said, we also know from direct observation that Andre the Giant, Shaq, and Warwick Davis are all outliers within the contemporary human population. So for archaeologists to find only those three people and none of the vast majority of humans that are much more representative samples of H. sapiens would be very, very unlikely.

Which means your scenario is a fine example of creationist argument. >:-)

45 posted on 03/24/2006 12:54:17 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Try Zinjanthropus.


46 posted on 03/24/2006 1:01:26 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; aculeus; thefactor

Ping...


47 posted on 03/24/2006 1:02:39 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: RightWhale

I dunno. We keep creating two gaps when there was only one. Pretty soon there'll be nothing but gaps and everything will cease to exist.


48 posted on 03/24/2006 1:03:41 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: ASA Vet; orionblamblam
I am ashamed of both of you!

Speaking as an on-duty public university employee..
49 posted on 03/24/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by somniferum
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To: RoadTest; ImaGraftedBranch
Which of the following are "just an old ape" and which are "just an old human"? Try it, it's fun!


Fossil hominid skulls. Some of the figures have been modified for ease of comparison
(only left-right mirroring or removal of a jawbone). (Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.)

We know that A) is a modern chimpanzee and N) is a modern human. Your challenge is to fill in these blanks:

Fossil Just an ape Ape-like
transitional
Human-like
transitional
Just a human Not related at all
to apes or humans
B [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
C [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
D [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
E [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
F [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
G [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
H [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
I [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
J [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
K [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
L [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]
M [_] [_] [_] [_] [_]

The Responses So Far:

Person B
Australopithecus
africanus
C
Australopithecus
africanus
D
Homo
habilis
E
Homo
habilis
F
Homo
rudolfensis
G
Homo
erectus
H
Homo
ergaster
I
Homo
heidelbergensis
J
Homo
sapiens neanderthalensis
K
Homo
sapiens neanderthalensis
L
Homo
sapiens sapiens
(Cro-Magnon)
Mainstream scientists ape-like ape-like ape-like, human-like ape-like, human-like human-like human-like human-like human-like human-like human-like human
editor-surveyor ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape human human human
Michael_Michaelangelo ape ape ape ape ape ape ape ape human human human
MississippiMan             ape        

50 posted on 03/24/2006 1:06:00 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
If I could be in a line of work where I could provide an answer such as "anywhere from 200,000 to 500,000 years old" in response to a question like "how old is this skeleton," and GET PAID for that answer, I would have a much less stressful life.

Ain't dat da troof!

51 posted on 03/24/2006 1:06:47 PM PST by KMJames
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To: ASA Vet

That last bit's going to cause trouble.


52 posted on 03/24/2006 1:07:56 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: The_Victor

Or maybe it can fill the space on the props shelf at Dreamworks


53 posted on 03/24/2006 1:15:11 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: orionblamblam

I'm a grad student so I have a double whammy--I must be being brainwashed by the establishment and my mercenary research is paid for by NIH.


54 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:53 PM PST by ahayes
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


55 posted on 03/24/2006 1:28:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: jennyp
Oh, give me a break. I do statistical forecasting in my line of business, so I am very familiar with the math as I do the calcs on a daily basis. Just to let you know, you need a decent POPULATION to study before you can CALL something an outlier. The point I was making was that when the number of skeletons are few, calculations can NOT be exact enough to say whether you are dealing with a representative population, or you are dealing strictly with outliers.

OBVIOUSLY, the three I mentioned were outliers, which is my point! Scientists, in their zeal to find a missing link, would much rather declare new species for the three examples than to say there was a possibility they were all the same species. Get it?

57 posted on 03/24/2006 1:57:32 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch ("Toleration" has never been affiliated with the virtuous. Think about it.)
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To: Tokra
Gee, only a 300,000 year gap between the assumed date of the skull.

And the skull is assumed to be a hominid, something that cannot even be proven to have existed.

What great science.

59 posted on 03/24/2006 2:08:19 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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