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To: HairOfTheDog

Puppy mills: Only reason to exist is to make money.
Hobby breeder: Emphasis is on breeding for certain qualities (depends upon the venue). Rarely make a profit.

Puppy mills: Generally have at least several breeds, often more than 5 different breeds.
Hobby breeder: Most of the time focuses on 1 or 2 breeds.

Puppy mills: Generally have puppies available all the time and usually sell puppies via some other outlet (pet shops or brokers)
Hobby breeder: Generally breed only a few litters per year and sell their puppies themselves (and carefully screen buyers).

Puppy mills: Are not there for the buyer after the sale.
Hobby breeders: Are there for the buyer for the life of the dog.

Puppy mills: Usually do not do any genetic testing, usually breed females at each season until they cannot produce enough puppies.
Hobby breeders: Usually breed a bitch no more often than once every year and frequently not that often, usually only have a few litters from one female, and then they are spayed and retired by age 8.

Puppy mills: Do not do anything other than breed their dogs.
Hobby breeder: Competes or tests their dogs in some venue.

There are certainly things I have not thought of, but there's a start for you.
susie


61 posted on 03/20/2006 2:39:17 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: brytlea

I'm on your side of this argument, but any law is going to have to quantify in order to define what is being regulated.

I live in Pennsylvania and have lived in Lancaster County (where the Amish crank out puppies like any other livestock). Successive dog laws have failed to put much of a dent into volume breeding business there. OTOH, zoning laws limiting households to 2 dogs have really put private breeders in jeopardy. Get that 3rd dog and your local township considers you 'a kennel'. In this case, the number is unrealistically low.


73 posted on 03/20/2006 2:52:07 PM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: brytlea
Back when we raised & showed, there was another glaring difference between breeders and puppy mills, which also led to a second problem...

We HAD to declare any income from any sales; but were not allowed to take any expense deductions for our hobby, unless we could PROVE it was a business, AND made a "reasonable profit" (Reasonability determined by IRS) 3 years out of 5. (A special IRS rule for easily abused "businesses" that are normally considered hobbies.)

That would have led to zoning, licensing, inspection, state registration, and other issues that would have guaranteed no profits anyway.

As if the extra costs premium feeds; supplements; match & show fees & travel expenses; the additional vet care & testing that showing & breeding involves; stud fees & air shipping of bitches for breeding all entail, which puppy mills do not pay.
135 posted on 03/20/2006 4:38:24 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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