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To: beaversmom
I'm pretty certain that this was also one of the reasons behind the Cruise-Kidman breakup. She wanted their adopted children to have a Catholic upbringing and Tom was all Scientology.

Anybody seen Tom exercising his parental rights with those kids?

I'm glad Tom has found a "religion" that works for him, but I hope he learns the lesson that's been taught throughout history--you cannot brute force people into religious conversion. Didn't work during the Crusades, didn't work during the Inquisition, didn't work in Puritan America.

What he doesn't realize is his whacked out behavior actually DISCOURAGES people from even considering exploring his "religion".

24 posted on 03/18/2006 2:45:54 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Go Panthers!.......)
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To: cincinnati65

It's a cult, with the tax free rights of religion.

Like the church of Monday Night Football who watched football Monday nights religiously.


25 posted on 03/18/2006 2:50:27 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cincinnati65
Anybody seen Tom exercising his parental rights with those kids?

I read they live with/near him and are "home-schooled" by his sister (also a Scientologist).
41 posted on 03/18/2006 4:36:18 AM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: cincinnati65
You wrote: "you cannot brute force people into religious conversion. Didn't work during the Crusades..."

The Crusades weren't about forcing anybody into religious conversion. If you read the documents of the time, this formed 0% of the motivation.

On November 17th 1095, Pope Urban II gave an important speech at the end of a church council in Clermont, France, calling for the nobility of Western Europe to assist their Eastern brothers in a Crusade to liberate the Holy Lands from the Muslim Turks, who were rapidly encroaching on the Byzantine Empire.

The Turks had already overrun most of the Byzantine Empire and were within striking distance of the capital, Constantinople. He also called for the liberation of Jerusalem, the most sacred of places in Christendom.

There was no interest in converting Muslims by force. The idea was defensive: to roll back an invasion.

58 posted on 03/18/2006 5:31:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Ius in bellum)
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To: cincinnati65

Our cousin is very good friends with a special effect guy in Hollywood. He did "The Aviator"...anyway, he says that the dirt on Tom is, he is gay (no shock there). He marries a woman and agrees to a 10 year marriage. They will look beside him, talk about how great their marriage is and he will do whatever it takes to get their movie career going very well. The problem is that Nicole thought that things were going well enough for him to stay, had gotten pregnant (miscarried after they separated) and thought Tom would stay. He dumped her for the 10 year anniversary, they even battled over the exact date because CA law is a lot nicer to women after 10 years of marriage. Nicole did have a problem with the scientology, btw.

I think he really wooed Katie, and got her away from her family, friends, etc and before she knew what exactly happened, she was in too deep. I actually feel a bit of sympathy for her...


60 posted on 03/18/2006 5:33:41 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I am the anti-soccer mom. Feminists fear me for I am raising a traditional family with values.)
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To: cincinnati65

Better check your info.
Islam is spread by brute force, and the Crusaders were not much of a match for them, even as they over ran and force converted thousands of Christians in the Holy Land and North Africa.
Tom probably wields his affluence as Islam wields the sword.


120 posted on 04/10/2006 3:39:19 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Parenthood is a gift)
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