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Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Baby Battle: Catholicism or Scientology
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264166.shtml ^ | Mar 17, 2006 | Angela Carson

Posted on 03/18/2006 2:05:32 AM PST by beaversmom

There has been plenty of speculation on the way the fabulous Katie Holmes is to give birth to her baby. The little one could come at any moment and it appears that Tom Cruise and Katie are already battling over the baby.

No - they are not battling over how the baby will be born, but what happens if the pair split after the little one emerges. The rub reportedly is the baby's religion - Catholicism or Scientology?

Life & Style Magazine details in this week's report that Katie is miserable and if there is a split - as that magazine has predicted - Tom’s demanding sole custody of their child-to-be. That reportedly left Katie in tears.

Normally, a custody battle wouldn’t start until after a child’s birth. But nothing’s normal when it comes to Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Multiple insiders say Tom recently approached Katie with a shocking request: Give him sole custody of their baby, who’s due as soon as April. “Katie went absolutely nuts and stormed off in tears,” says one insider.

Since Tom, 43, went so far as to ask Katie, 27, to sign papers granting him custody, her dad, Martin Holmes, a Toledo, Ohio, divorce attorney, promptly became involved. Martin called Tom, the insider says, and accused him of treating his daughter like dirt. “If you don’t stop, there will be hell to pay,” Martin warned him.

Cue the rep: Tom’s rep denies the story.

There are many more details in the print article, but the speculated reason is straight out of South Park. Tom wants the baby to be raised as a Scientologist and not a Catholic.

It's tough to see Katie's dad allowing that to happen without a fight.


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To: cincinnati65
Anybody seen Tom exercising his parental rights with those kids?

I read they live with/near him and are "home-schooled" by his sister (also a Scientologist).
41 posted on 03/18/2006 4:36:18 AM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: milemark

Oh My God!

That is utterly fantastic!

I love the photos.

Heading out to work on a Saturday (becoming increasingly common) and a bit miserable about it.

Pics will make it go alot better as I laugh to myself at my desk all day.


42 posted on 03/18/2006 4:36:20 AM PST by Plymouth Sentinel (Sooner Rather Than Later)
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To: VOYAGER

But with Scientology you get some wierd ideas about not talking to the baby in order not to disturb him/her.


43 posted on 03/18/2006 4:43:48 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: Plymouth Sentinel
This is my first posting here. I have followed this site for several months and enjoy the discussions/debates. One issue that I do not understand, is why we as conservatives, give a minute of air/internet time to these pukes that have nothing of value to the interest of the American Way. They are "Actors" = bull shi**ers as a profession. They have a platform of status, with no credentials to back-up their thoughts or beliefs. It kills me to hear that the public cares that Jessica Simpson's dad says that "oh she loves the president". Who cares? Brit, voted for Bush, who gives a crap! Clooney, Streisand and the rest of them are less informed than the posters here. Why even recognize them? We play their game when we do.
44 posted on 03/18/2006 4:48:21 AM PST by mmanager
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To: SampleMan

Is there anything Scientific about Scientology? Maybe they could just agree that the kid will be a Catholic Scientist.


45 posted on 03/18/2006 4:49:08 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

placemarker


46 posted on 03/18/2006 4:57:55 AM PST by Malacoda (Islam=insane death cult)
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To: 9999lakes

You think Tom Cruise is an excellent actor, and beyond looks and money you don't think how a child is raised matters. Noted. Any other pearls you want to unburden yourself of?


47 posted on 03/18/2006 4:58:10 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: rovenstinez

I'm wondering how someone who considers themself Catholic ends up shacked up with Tom Cruise. If Katie is concerned about Catholic values, its a long time in coming.


48 posted on 03/18/2006 5:02:50 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: beaversmom


Actors Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes kiss as Cruise's son Connor looks on, as they stand in their luxury box at Angel Stadium while watching Team USA play Team Mexico in the World Baseball Classic in Anaheim, Calif. Thursday, March 16, 2006. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

49 posted on 03/18/2006 5:03:24 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: beaversmom

I was thinking more like Michael Jackson and his strange "fatherhood".

Somebody ought to step in and do an intervention for that poor girl. Stupid is as stupid does, but Katie Holmes shouldn't have to pay for this stupidity by losing her child.

Tom Cruise is insane, and I'd bet my eye teeth that his career will officially be in the toilet after the release of MI3.
It is a cumulative effect. Tom fired the manager who kept his sick ways in the closet for years, and now we can all see the Scientology psychosis that completely controls him.
I feel no sympathy for him, but I really do hope that someone helps Katie Holmes and her baby.


50 posted on 03/18/2006 5:04:38 AM PST by ishabibble
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To: SampleMan

One word - CULT...no different than Jones...the cool-aid will come.


51 posted on 03/18/2006 5:04:59 AM PST by mmanager
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To: saveliberty

Good thing her dad is an attorney.


52 posted on 03/18/2006 5:13:21 AM PST by Muzzle_em ("Mayor Nagin, what about those buses?")
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To: beaversmom
Good morning.

The rub reportedly is the baby's religion - Catholicism or Scientology?

Let's see, L. Ron Hubbard or Jesus the Christ? Hey, it looks like an easy decision to me, but then again I'm not rich and crazy.

5.56mm

53 posted on 03/18/2006 5:16:43 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SampleMan

"You think Tom Cruise is an excellent actor, and beyond looks and money you don't think how a child is raised matters. Noted. Any other pearls you want to unburden yourself of?"

LOL
Nice of you to ask.

Hmmm. Well yes. I think that most of Hollywood's outrage at Cruise comes from his divorce from Kidman, who has replaced Liza Minnelli, who previously had replaced Elizabeth Taylor as Official Darling of the Queers.


54 posted on 03/18/2006 5:17:18 AM PST by 9999lakes
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To: mmanager
Good morning. Not bad for your first post.

Welcome to FR.

5.56mm

55 posted on 03/18/2006 5:19:21 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: mmanager
mmanager

You did good for your first post!!! I have said the same thing for years....why do we give any credence to people just because they have the ability to pretend? Actors are nothing more then big children who go into their pretend world and pretend to be someone else and get paid for it. I have no clue why we give a rat's rear what they think or do or say. I find that most of them are totally ignorant of facts and they liken to the MSM and just make crap up and most of the world eats it up!

As far as Katie Holmes goes, I think she really thought this guy loved her...seems the rest of us saw it for what it is....a publicity stunt by Tom's people to make him appear more "family friendly"...backfired big time! Now the problem is she is expecting a child (not necessarily his) and I believe she is having real feelings about what will become of this child. TC is a certifiable nut and the longer she is with him the more she will realize it.
I think the guy is toast as far as his career goes. Most people I know haven't seen one of his movies in years and personally I am sick of having him jammed down my throat. When he has a new movie out he is everywhere. I hate to even think about it. But, I don't think all the publicity in the world will un-do the damage he has done to himself.
56 posted on 03/18/2006 5:22:43 AM PST by 4everontheRight (Criminals feed on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: beaversmom

Surely you've heard L Ron Hubbard's most famous quote - "If you want to get rich start a religion". And Hubbard dabbled in drugs and black magic before he concocted Scientology
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2006-09%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=Hubbard+dabbled+in+drugs+and+black+magic&btnG=Search


57 posted on 03/18/2006 5:28:40 AM PST by dennisw (-Muslim's biggest enemy is the founder of Islam, Muhammad. Muslims are victims of this evil conman-)
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To: cincinnati65
You wrote: "you cannot brute force people into religious conversion. Didn't work during the Crusades..."

The Crusades weren't about forcing anybody into religious conversion. If you read the documents of the time, this formed 0% of the motivation.

On November 17th 1095, Pope Urban II gave an important speech at the end of a church council in Clermont, France, calling for the nobility of Western Europe to assist their Eastern brothers in a Crusade to liberate the Holy Lands from the Muslim Turks, who were rapidly encroaching on the Byzantine Empire.

The Turks had already overrun most of the Byzantine Empire and were within striking distance of the capital, Constantinople. He also called for the liberation of Jerusalem, the most sacred of places in Christendom.

There was no interest in converting Muslims by force. The idea was defensive: to roll back an invasion.

58 posted on 03/18/2006 5:31:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Ius in bellum)
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To: 9999lakes
"I think that most of Hollywood's outrage at Cruise comes from his divorce from Kidman, who has replaced Liza Minnelli, who previously had replaced Elizabeth Taylor as Official Darling of the Queers."

I think Judy Garland is supposed to be in there somewhere too.

59 posted on 03/18/2006 5:31:59 AM PST by joebuck
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To: cincinnati65

Our cousin is very good friends with a special effect guy in Hollywood. He did "The Aviator"...anyway, he says that the dirt on Tom is, he is gay (no shock there). He marries a woman and agrees to a 10 year marriage. They will look beside him, talk about how great their marriage is and he will do whatever it takes to get their movie career going very well. The problem is that Nicole thought that things were going well enough for him to stay, had gotten pregnant (miscarried after they separated) and thought Tom would stay. He dumped her for the 10 year anniversary, they even battled over the exact date because CA law is a lot nicer to women after 10 years of marriage. Nicole did have a problem with the scientology, btw.

I think he really wooed Katie, and got her away from her family, friends, etc and before she knew what exactly happened, she was in too deep. I actually feel a bit of sympathy for her...


60 posted on 03/18/2006 5:33:41 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I am the anti-soccer mom. Feminists fear me for I am raising a traditional family with values.)
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