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Enid News ^ | Feb. 24 2006 | Ruth Ann Replogle

Posted on 03/15/2006 6:53:07 PM PST by sissyjane

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To: AnAmericanMother

One of my dogs was almost attacked while on lead. We were walking along a four lane road in front of a bus stop. I called Fish and Game, and they came and got the creepy coyote, and all her little pups too.


21 posted on 03/15/2006 8:06:43 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

American.


22 posted on 03/15/2006 8:09:50 PM PST by Beaker
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To: AnAmericanMother

He's always been such a good boy with everything and everyone. He's now deaf as a post, but still sweet as ever. Though he will still bark his head off whenever a bicycle goes by. He also goes crazy over motorcycles, and once chased my dad down the street. Dad had to pick him up and bring him back.


23 posted on 03/15/2006 8:13:23 PM PST by Beaker
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My dog has always completely ignored bicyclists and motorcyclists -- which is a good thing, because our road is one of the main routes for the Atlanta Bicycle Club, and on a sunny Sunday you have a constant stream of guys in funny looking multicolored spandex suits on $6,000 bikes pedalling madly up our hill.

I guess the dog thinks they look too peculiar to chase.

24 posted on 03/15/2006 8:29:18 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: sissyjane

The only good coyote . . . .


25 posted on 03/15/2006 8:29:52 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

...is a very DEAD coyote!!


26 posted on 03/15/2006 8:31:03 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: sissyjane

There's not a dang thing wrong with auctioning livestock.


27 posted on 03/15/2006 9:54:35 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus

You may be right about livestock, but there sure is something wrong with auctioning off dogs.


28 posted on 03/15/2006 9:59:52 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: festus

>There's not a dang thing wrong with auctioning livestock. <

Livestock do not have to be socialized, so they make good pets. Dogs are not kept like barnyard animals. Most people want their dog to be part of their family. Puppies need a lot of socialization to different people, places and to different experiences while they are young, to be emotionally stable adults. Legally, dogs are classified differently than are livestock (as domestic, or companion animals).

This is why so many people who buy dogs from pet shops end up dealing with a host of Phydeaux's behavior problems, 9 times out of 10.


29 posted on 03/16/2006 4:43:13 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: sissyjane

In addition, people who put alot of time and effort into producing quality puppies (generally hobby breeders who don't make a living breeding dogs) will not sell a puppy in such a way, as they want to be able to choose appropriate homes. Having enough $$$ to buy a puppy does not insure the puppy will have the right home.
I was once approached by a good friend to donate one of my puppies for an auction (for a good cause) and I don't think she really understood why I declined. I offered other services to auction (private training classes for instance) but they were not interested. They just wanted a golden retriever puppy because it would birng alot of $$$.
In additiona, I was once at a charity auction in which a golden puppy was auctioned. The person who bought it did so in the heat of the moment. She got rid of the puppy within 6 months.

susie


30 posted on 03/16/2006 5:42:28 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'd be more concerned about where this dog was going than where it came from, and those who spend hundreds on charity auctions are probably not bad homes for a little lap dog.

Some are and some aren't. There is NO screening process, the high bid gets the puppy. Even humane societies and shelters screen prospective homes.

Sorry you dislike us elitist snobs. Actually, no, it doesn't bother me all that much. It's your problem, not mine.

susie

31 posted on 03/16/2006 5:48:04 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: brytlea
I was in a bad mood last night - disregard most of what I said on this thread because I didn't say it well.

Even humane societies and shelters screen prospective homes.

And they should screen. Keep an eye out though, sometimes they lose touch of the goal and screen out perfectly good owners out of paranoia and politics. ( We just wanted a dog(Vanity) ) That thread's not about me, but I was also prevented from even asking more questions by a breed rescue group... I'm the best dog owner I know, and the people cut me off at the knees. There's lots of kinds of elitism .

32 posted on 03/16/2006 6:07:53 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Darnright
Livestock do not have to be socialized, so they make good pets. Dogs are not kept like barnyard animals. Most people want their dog to be part of their family.

We may treat our dogs like family, but we trust horses with our lives. And people do buy and sell them at auction sometimes.

This is why so many people who buy dogs from pet shops end up dealing with a host of Phydeaux's behavior problems, 9 times out of 10.

I know you pulled that statistic out of thin air, so I would like to intercede to say that dogs are much more resilient and adaptable than this makes them sound. I don't want people to worry themselves into never taking on rescues for fear of behavior problems... True, some have issues and need expert handling, but many will be great pets in a good home, with the same training any dog would need. Good common sense and ~good~ animal rescue people should help make a good match.

33 posted on 03/16/2006 6:15:40 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Sorry about that, I guess I got up on the wrong side of the bed (I'm blaming this darned flu I've had for a week now)!
I know, some of the rescues do make me crazy.

Of course, i suspect I screen out some homes that really would be good ones as well, because I think a good home is in the eye of the beholder. For instance, I would not sell a puppy if it was going to be an outside dog. I have known a few people with outside dogs who seem like pretty happy, well adjusted pets. On the other hand, I see many more who are not, so playing the odds, I just don't sell to that type of owner.

susie


34 posted on 03/16/2006 6:20:25 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: brytlea

I'd be the same. I think dogs need to be where there people are.


35 posted on 03/16/2006 6:22:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: brytlea

err... their people are ;~D


36 posted on 03/16/2006 6:23:18 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: HairOfTheDog

LOL I didnt' even notice the typo in the first post.
susie


37 posted on 03/16/2006 6:32:50 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

>I know you pulled that statistic out of thin air, so I would like to intercede to say that dogs are much more resilient and adaptable than this makes them sound. I don't want people to worry themselves into never taking on rescues for fear of behavior problems... True, some have issues and need expert handling, but many will be great pets in a good home, with the same training any dog would need. Good common sense and ~good~ animal rescue people should help make a good match.<

I would hope my statement alerts well-meaning people to think about the possible implications of buying a dog at a pet shop. My statement has nothing to do with rescue.

That said, at least with my breed (Papillons), people who are willing to adopt rescue dogs need to realize that most of the dogs in rescue are either older, or were given up because of an underlying behavior problem. People need to approach rescue with this understanding, instead of thinking they're going to get a three month old puppy, in their choice of sex and of color, for a rescue price (drastically lower than what a breeder would charge).

I wish more people would adopt shelter dogs, as opposed to spending a thousand dollars or more on a poorly bred, poorly socialized pet shop puppy.


38 posted on 03/16/2006 6:35:05 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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My statement has nothing to do with rescue. .... I wish more people would adopt shelter dogs.....

I do too, but the dog behavior issues are no different. Dogs are either adaptable even coming from bad environments or they aren't. Just sayin' is all.

39 posted on 03/16/2006 6:41:18 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: sissyjane

Actually this is rather amusing.

We're supposed to be appalled at this, right?

Yet, thousands of "top" breeders or dealers will very readily sell both puppies and older dogs sight-unseen (on both ends) to people thousands of miles away whom they hardly know, never seeing them, because they just ship the dog cross-country or cross-Atlantic.

I'm thinking the only difference is they might talk to the prospective owner a bit more.


40 posted on 03/16/2006 8:28:07 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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