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Hypocrites at "South Park" and Showtime
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| 14 Mar 06
| Bill Donahue
Posted on 03/14/2006 1:00:45 PM PST by big'ol_freeper
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To: JCEccles
You seem awfully obsessed with a show you don't watch.
But you're just flat wrong. They've skewered muslims most happily of all, in whatever way fit the story of the moment. If the scripts haven't met with your satisfaction, perhaps you could send them some of your ideas.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:34:29 PM PST
by
Ramius
(Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
To: JCEccles
I didn't say they were fearless, I said they were ~good~.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:35:48 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
To: Oztrich Boy
"Chicks bleed out their vaginas all the time."
____________________________________
Yes, they do.
And to show that, in just about any context other than medical, is crude. To show that of a religious figure, or a symbol of a religious figure, is both crude and offensive.
But you may not hold anything sacred...and thus you may be unable to be offended in that manner. And if so, that is very sad.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:38:11 PM PST
by
fizziwig
(Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
To: HairOfTheDog
Those that make such posts don't care. About all possible attacks have run their course for Matt and Trey. It just gives them another avenue to attack a show that's just a little over their head in most cases. Unless it's a flag waving, church based, 50s Ozzie and Harriet style show it must be evil, left wing, and worthy of attack.
Matt and Trey are supposedly 'scared' because they don't do a Muslim episode. Of course they made fun of Al Qaeda, they made fun of the ME in general in the Christmas episode, but because they don't dedicate an entire episode to Mohammed they're 'scared'. Maybe there's just not enough jokes to support 30 minutes on Mohammed? I don't know. But considering how those two have lampooned just about everything in our culture, the last thing I would say is they're 'scared'
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:38:32 PM PST
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: billbears
Agreed! I didn't know "fearless" was a litmus test for good comedy. I always thought "funny" was...
Silly me...
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:41:19 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
(Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
Yeah, the episode about the Virgin Mary was hee-larious. Two wild and crazy guys.
But Muhammad's posse has them wetting their depends.
You won't see the South Park boyz insult Muhammad, and not because there isn't terrifically funny material for them to work with. It's because they want to keep their heads firmly attached to their bodies. Can't blame them for choosing life, I guess. They've made all that money insulting everyone else on the planet, they figure they ought to be allowed to enjoy it.
To: fizziwig
Please quit talking about that. It's repulsive.
:-)
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:42:03 PM PST
by
Ramius
(Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
To: JCEccles
Funny you should say that in a thread discussing their attacks on Scientology and Islam. Those guys are just lambs.....and you are doing it on an anonymous internet board. I'm not saying you have to watch and I'm not saying you have to like them but I would suggest having some familiarity with the subject matter before laying your head on the block.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:42:14 PM PST
by
Uriah_lost
(http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
To: Ramius
You know they are just gonna rape chef for, at least, a full episode. I expect they will have a recurring chef bash catch phrase for at least a season or two.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:47:08 PM PST
by
Uriah_lost
(http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
To: untrained skeptic
Taranto in the WSJ said it almost as well as Stone did:
"Well, after all, it's one thing to mock Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals, blacks, gays, whites, Mexicans, Asians, Canadians, Frenchmen, people with birth defects, women, transsexuals, Democrats, Republicans, lawyers, cops, cows, people with red hair and freckles, goths, the handicapped and fat kids. But satirizing Scientology--that's just intolerant!"
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:53:33 PM PST
by
LibertarianInExile
(Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
To: HairOfTheDog
Yes, thanks for running ES's list during his timeout.
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posted on
03/14/2006 4:55:29 PM PST
by
rattrap
To: mnehrling
what isn't there a fatwa against with that pathetic excuse of a religion?
To: AmishDude; spinestein
The funny thing is, I wouldn't want them to go after Islam the way they went after Mormonism and Scientology. I thought the Scientology thing was derivative of the Mormon episode and I don't want to see it again applied to Islam. I'll still laugh, I'm sure, but I want them to be original.
The Mormon episode was quite different from the Scientology episode, especially in how each concluded. At the end of the Mormon episode the kids essentially point out how silly the situation was that founded the faith, to which the Mormon child responded, paraphrasing, "Maybe you're right, but I don't care. I'm happy, my family's happy, and we don't cause problems for anyone. You kids can go screw yourselves." To which the South Park kids were rightfully left dumbfounded. Again, paraphrasing, but that exchange was pretty much the main point of the episode.
Contrast that with the scathing satire of Scientology. Not just the basic tennants of the faith, which in itself would have been more than enough fuel for satire, but the silly recruitment techniques, the insane monetary requirements for advancement, the lawyers and threats of lawsuits, and the lunatics running around in its name. Every aspect of Scientology was satired and rightfully pointed out as essentially being the hallmarks of a cult. The end of the episode pretty much concluded with threats of lawsuits, and nothing at all tangible to counter what points had been brought up throughout the episode.
Mormonism got off WAY light compared to the Scientology episode.
And (to spinestein) that wasn't Jesus in that scene of Life of Brian, it was one of many convicts in line to be crucified. It was a spoof of a different good Samaritan than the one that helped Jesus being taken unfair advantage of. :)
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posted on
03/14/2006 5:07:26 PM PST
by
Thoro
(Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
To: JCEccles
Oh, I think Muhammad would make for a serious of hilarious episodes.Parker and pal are scared sh*tless to do it.
Patience, my FRiend, patience. After the whole cartoon debacle, I'm sure Mighty Mo will find himself on the South Park docket sooner or later.
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posted on
03/14/2006 5:11:30 PM PST
by
lesser_satan
(You know, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas.)
To: fizziwig
But what makes Mary so special within the Catholic Church is she is more than "religious figure" she's a human being. And God, perfect in every way, chose a human, imperfect in many ways to bring the world his only Son. God could have easily sent down a fully formed Jesus, but he chose to work with Mary. We should be celebrating her bleeding, because that is hope for everybody about how close we can come to God.
To deny any aspect of Mary's humanness, is to reduce God's Love and Power.
To: fizziwig
Lets see them make fun of Islam.....I won't hold my breath for that one.....Good thing you didn't; you'd be dead by now, otherwise.
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posted on
03/14/2006 5:37:15 PM PST
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
To: Ramius
Please quit talking about that. It's repulsive. We only wallow in it to point out how repulsive, offensive, and vile it is.
Thinking about it all the time makes us feel clean and pure.
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posted on
03/14/2006 5:59:37 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(Voltaire repented on his deathbed EXACTLY as Charles Darwin did)
To: JCEccles
What is it exactly that you want them to use from Islam that is worthy of 30 minutes? You could say the cartoon thing, but it would essentially be a retread of several episodes they have done about people over reacting over nothing. Find the Muslims doing something ridiculous and worthy of lampooning during a season of SP, and drop them a line asking to see an episode about it. If your wondering, the new season starts a week from tomorrow.
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posted on
03/14/2006 5:59:42 PM PST
by
Mr. Blonde
(You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
To: fizziwig; Pukin Dog
They are my kind of effin slimeballs.
To: mnehrling
In reality, their supposed mocking of Christianity has really been mocking the antics of 'Christians', not Christianity.. I agree, and our antics should be mocked. The miracle of true Christianity is that when we are mocked, that we don't burn buildings and behead people, but we can actully love them.
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posted on
03/14/2006 6:11:27 PM PST
by
feedback doctor
(Socialism, the opiate of liberals)
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