Linux Works Even for Total Newbies

Really Linux.com ^ | 2006-03-07 | Rob Milner

[ShadowAce]

Idiot.

He does this on purpose. He goes out and searches for the most convoluted, messy, ugliest way of installing software, then claims that it's the "standard."

For someone who claims to have never actually used linux, he sure likes to pass himself off as an expert in installing software on that platform....

[FLAMING DEATH]

Ha ha! Nice wallpaper!

Is that from the site about the kid who made his own flamethrower, then walked around the neighborhood lighting things up?

"I ended up learning to enjoy the time on my computer."

Amen. I have this bad habit of believing that there's always one more cool little tweak that I can find to do before bedtime (the Mountaineer titlebar theme and KBFX button are good examples). And there always are tweaks to be found if you look for them. This results in many nights of "Okay, at 1:30, I'm going to bed...nifty! I'm going to install that..Okay, at 1:45, I'm going to bed...Wow, that's cool! Wonder how it would work on my system?...Okay, at 2:05, I'm going to bed...hey...I didn't know you could do that!, etc.

When I get home I'll post a pic of my desktop that I have totally maxed out with eye candy (it's a little too much, actually, but it was fun to see if all the stuff worked). Lots of transparencies. Ridiculous. Sometimes, sleep deprivation impairs judgement.

[goldstategop]

Even that excuse is gone with Scott Moschella's Gimp hack known as GimpShop. Basically, he took The Gimp and renamed everything so Photoshop users could do work in it. Its still the same Gimp of course but now its more like the Photoshop digital camera buffs love.

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[FLAMING DEATH]

I love it when you post stuff like this, because it reaffirms to all of us that you spend 99.89934% of the time talking out of your @$$ without having any clue as to what's really going on. I've never had to install ANYTHING by the method you described.

Again, because you're dense, from a Debian command line:

sudo apt-get install quake2

Or, from Synaptic, search for Quake, when the results come up, check it and click Install. The command line is much faster though, even if that's too tough for you.

I know that's reaaaaaally hard to comprehend. Take a day or two to soak it up.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Yep. He's sure talked about it enough.

[Golden Eagle]

You guys are trying to claim it's easy, yet you have to know all these tricks or secret locations for automated installs.

You surely can't believe I wrote that quake install do you? Of course not, I went to some Linux gamers site, and those were the instructions given.

Same with the official Firefox process - it came straight from their website.

So while you accuse me of not knowing what to do, you're actually blowing your very own argument to tiny bits! LMAO and fuuniest of all you didn't even realize it!!!

[Knitebane]

He is an expert....

Where, X is the mathematical symbol for the unknown,

and a "spurt" is a drip under pressure.

Thus, Xspurt, an unknown drip under pressure, seems to fit him quite well.

[Golden Eagle]

I'm not doing anything other than posting install processes listed on the internet for these products. If the posted procedures are wrong, then it's an obvious Linux problem, and a problem for any fools who believed your lies that everything was going to be straightforward and easy.

[Knitebane]

You guys are trying to claim it's easy, yet you have to know all these tricks or secret locations for automated installs.

Because we've actually used a modern distro of Linux rather than just guessing.

You surely can't believe I wrote that quake install do you?

Of course not. No one here has ever claimed that you have any technical ability whatsoever.

...I went to some Linux gamers site, and those were the instructions given.

Rather than using a modern distro and using the tools provided on that distro.

Same with the official Firefox process - it came straight from their website.

There is a difference between a generic install process that will work with any Linux distro, no matter how obscure or how stripped down, and an install process that is available on a modern desktop distro. Not that you'd know.

So while you accuse me of not knowing what to do, you're actually blowing your very own argument to tiny bits! LMAO and fuuniest of all you didn't even realize it!!!

No, we're just showing that you have no idea at all what you are talking about, as per usual.

[Knitebane]

I'm not doing anything other than posting install processes listed on the internet for these products.

I'm sure I could find an install process for a Windows app that requires buying a compiler and building it from source. That doesn't make it the proper way or even the easy way. It's just a possible way.

What you are doing is trolling for the hardest way possible and suggesting that it's the norm.

If the posted procedures are wrong, then it's an obvious Linux problem, and a problem for any fools who believed your lies that everything was going to be straightforward and easy.

The procedures you post aren't wrong, per se, they're just not necessary.

[N3WBI3]

You surely can't believe I wrote that quake install do you? Of course not, I went to some Linux gamers site, and those were the instructions given.

Hmmm so the man who once complained about me referencing 'some hacker web site' is now using Linux gaming sites as reference? The site knite pulled down. Shadow is right you looked for the worst instructions out there. The first link in a google search of 'Quake2 setup Linux' yielded this:

" RPMs, new Solaris packages available - Wednesday, December 4, 2002

Thanks to Vincent Cojot (Solaris) and Fabrice Colin (RPMs) we now have Solaris binaries and i386 RPMs available. Check out Downloads " http://icculus.org/quake2/#download simple binary install found with a simple google search..

I do hope you keep this up everyone here can see how desperate you are to twist the truth in this matter..

[Golden Eagle]

Case closed. Linux sucks for newbies, and your only chance of getting it to work easily is to hang around with condescending a-holes who think they're smart since everything they do takes longer to figure out than most people have time to waste.

[Knitebane]

Case closed, you're an idiot that has no idea what he's talking about.

You get Linux to work easily by using a distro that easy to use. There are several. What you don't do is search the Web for the hardest way to do things and then cluelessly execute the most complicated instructions you can find.

[Golden Eagle]

Too bad with Linux you're left having to fish around the web for instructions on how to do things, which may or may not be the best way to do things, but life sucks when you make the wrong choices in life, like listening to those that first claim newbies can handle Linux, then blast others for not knowing the command line! This is hilarious!

[FLAMING DEATH]

"You guys are trying to claim it's easy, yet you have to know all these tricks or secret locations for automated installs. "

Tricks? Secret locations? Are you nuts? From a default install of Mepis 3.3:

Just to reiterate, Synaptic is the point and click program installer for Debian. It's crazy that they would hide a "secret" location like that right there on one of the start submenus. Those crazy people, trying to keep us from learning their operating system. Sheesh.

"You surely can't believe I wrote that quake install do you? Of course not, I went to some Linux gamers site, and those were the instructions given. Same with the official Firefox process - it came straight from their website. "

Well, Mepis has it's own website that tells me how to install stuff. Works great, too. I'll just keep using that, rather than listen to an ignorant oaf, who, with agenda in hand, sets out to find the most complicated, convoluted instructions to make it seem like Linux is next to impossible.

"So while you accuse me of not knowing what to do, you're actually blowing your very own argument to tiny bits! LMAO and fuuniest of all you didn't even realize it!!!"

Earth to Turkey. You might as well have stated the application install procedure for 0S/2 or Amiga. It doesn't apply to my system. I figured that out long ago, but you're obviously too dense to clue in, because you don't want to.

[FLAMING DEATH]

So, by that logic, do you read a repair manual for an '80 Chevette to install products on your '05 Dodge Pickup?

[N3WBI3]

Too bad with Linux you're left having to fish around the web for instructions on how to do things

Hmm first hit in google 'install quake2 linux' equals fishing, finding some unamed 'gaming' site with poor instructions equals proof of difficulity... What color is the sky in your world.

BTW this post ignores 84 which require no web search and no terminal configuration.

[Golden Eagle]

Get real, that doesn't contain routines for everything I might want to use, especially if I wanted to (GASP!) buy something commercial in the store. Sorry if that's against your religion, but it is something normal people do.

[MikefromOhio]

I just want to know who is paying you so much to be a complete shill?


You seem to have a vehemence for something and doesn't REQUIRE it, which seems to indicate that you hvae an alterior motive.

[FLAMING DEATH]

It contains routines for everything you've posted.

sudo apt-get install quake2
sudo apt-get install firefox

There ya go.