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To: zeugma
From there, I execute a script

And that is the problem with Linux right there! whats up with that command prompt thing! bin/dev whatever all that stuff, its like you have to take classes just to learn how to use the OS! And trying to update linux forget it! rpms and binarys WTF! LOL why cant they just have an auto update like windows? or like an exe file that you click and it updates it for you. I don't have all the time to waste figuring all the stuff out.

18 posted on 02/25/2006 9:48:13 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
And that is the problem with Linux right there! whats up with that command prompt thing! bin/dev whatever all that stuff, its like you have to take classes just to learn how to use the OS!

Because this:

is so much better.

Besides, it's not like you have to tweak the registry for anything like important items. Only for things like games.

And trying to update linux forget it! rpms and binarys WTF! LOL why cant they just have an auto update like windows?

WTF, indeed.

From a command prompt:

#apt-get update
#apt-get upgrade

And if that's too hard for you, you can use one of the available GUI tools such as kpackage or synaptic:

I don't have all the time to waste figuring all the stuff out.

But you apparently have time to waste running updates from windowsupdate and installing third-party software to scan for viruses, scan for and remove spyware, defrag your hard drive and firewall your box.

Oh and all of the Windows skills you've aquired will be obsolete when the next version (we'll get it right this time for sure!) of Windows ships.

So why not learn something useful that won't be shoved aside with the next hotpatch?

19 posted on 02/26/2006 1:17:56 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Echo Talon

Updating Fedora: Click on a red icon that does the update... Whats so hard about that?


22 posted on 02/26/2006 3:50:13 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Echo Talon
And that is the problem with Linux right there! whats up with that command prompt thing! bin/dev whatever all that stuff, its like you have to take classes just to learn how to use the OS! And trying to update linux forget it! rpms and binarys WTF! LOL why cant they just have an auto update like windows? or like an exe file that you click and it updates it for you. I don't have all the time to waste figuring all the stuff out.

Well, I guess it depends upon what you consider a waste of time. I work with Unix systems professionally, so learning Unix, commands, and scripting is just another part of my job. I'm basically a lazy person, so I'm willing to expend a little effort on my part up front to make daily tasks I do easier.  The script I mentioned that I use for starting up terminals to my remote systems is incredibly simple. It basiclly calls the terminal program with the configuration options that allow the tabs within each window to be ssh sessions on each remote systems.

Regarding auto-update. Such things are quite available. There are gui programs that will allow you to update with a single click of a button, or will do it automatically for you. I prefer updating from the command line, so I can see what's going on, but that's just a matter of personal preeference. That's the thing with Unix. There is always more than one way to do things, and you are perfectly free to do them any way that works best for you.

If you prefer running windows, and it works well for you, that's great, but for many of us, we prefer to have other options that make us more productive. 

42 posted on 02/26/2006 11:06:17 AM PST by zeugma (This post made with the 'Xinha Here!' Firefox plugin.)
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To: Echo Talon
Or, if you use SuSE, YaST does an excellent job updating and can find most (if not all) the dependencies it requires. Regardless whether you use KDE or GNOME, it's easily accessible. Though you have to run Yast as root (via graphical su).

And, you can add repositories from ftp or http servers--several people offer downloads for SuSE RPM's. It's how I have mplayer (and FF plugin), Firefox 1.5.0.1, the Ximian exchange connector, and aMule running.

50 posted on 02/26/2006 1:50:05 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: Echo Talon
And that is the problem with Linux right there! whats up with that command prompt thing! bin/dev whatever all that stuff, its like you have to take classes just to learn how to use the OS! And trying to update linux forget it! rpms and binarys WTF! LOL why cant they just have an auto update like windows? or like an exe file that you click and it updates it for you.

Well, if you want to mess with the command line, you can, and you can actually do a lot of stuff quicker from the command line as opposed to pointing and clicking all over the place. However, the reason for a windowing system is to provide a layer above the commandline, and you can function in Linux without ever opening a terminal window.

As for updates; I'm running SuSE 10.0, and it does have an autoupdate feature, runs down in my "taskbar" and alerts me when updates are available. I have mine set for manual update (I initiate the updates) which just requires me to hit the "Start Update" button.

As for software applications; you download the .RPM package file to a temp directory, right click on it and pick "Actions" and "Install using (in my case) YaST", from the menu. Simple really.

104 posted on 02/27/2006 6:03:07 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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