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I'm a Christian who believes that God created everything. I do not know how He created it, but I know He did. He might have used evolution...but there are some things in life that just seem so complex and intricately designed (after all, a car is designed, yet it is far less efficient than a human body in terms of converting energy into a usable form without wasting any...and yet the human body came by 'chance'? I don't buy it.) that it couldn't have been by chance. There had to be a higher hand involved.

And that's me.

What do you all believe?

1 posted on 02/25/2006 9:06:22 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: PatrickHenry; DaveLoneRanger; neverdem

Ping.

Just a thread for people to state what belief they have in the CrEvo debates. This way, we'll all know who we'll debate.


2 posted on 02/25/2006 9:07:49 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hitler and Stalin have nothing on Abortion)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Agnostic that accepts Evolution.


3 posted on 02/25/2006 9:08:19 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I believe that God created the Universe, it really has little to do with any religious belief I may have, just as I do not oppose abortion because of religious belief. Even if the entire universe started from some little speck (Big Bang), who or what put that little speck there?


4 posted on 02/25/2006 9:21:42 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

As a Christian, I believe that God created everything.

As a medical student, I've had to study enough science to realize that He did it without using evolution as a mechanism.


5 posted on 02/25/2006 9:23:21 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I believe that Evolution is entirely compatible with my religious beliefs.

Namely, that Marduk fashioned the world out of the carcass of Tiamat.

6 posted on 02/25/2006 9:25:32 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
IMO, God created the heavens and the Earth and also evolution because without it, We wouldn't have gotten this far. (NOT into the theory that the earth is only a few 1000 yrs. old)
7 posted on 02/25/2006 9:25:39 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I see the hand of God in evolution. He works His wonders in mysterious ways. I think that natural selection and evolutionary theory does not challenge God -- it challenges men.


8 posted on 02/25/2006 9:30:58 AM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I'm not going to be nice. There are entirely too many Evos who come on these posts and demand the worship of the demi-god named "Natural Selection" (who they claim is the only true god).

Look, you can be an evolution fan without worshipping it, which too many of them don't understand. As far as the Creationists are concerned, I think they leave out entirely too many steps, particularly the first 4.5 billion years (or maybe even 14 billion years, or more).

9 posted on 02/25/2006 9:35:37 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I believe in an intelligent designer. Like you, I do not know exactly how He did it. Evolution proposes the evolution of the species without focusing on the creation aspect of life. Life does not begin ex nihilo. Nothing cannot create something. To delineate the two is important. micro-evolution within species is a fact. Macro-evolution has no basis in fact (IMO). One species has not, cannot, or will not change into another species.

I believe that life is too complex to have macro-evolved. The eye would have been useless for millions of years with partial evolution, how would that have made the evolving species more capable of surviving during the transition?

Entropy is hard to overcome if all things wind down over time, macro-evolution goes against this and winds up. Infinite amounts of time cannot overcome this.

I believe that ID, creation and macro-evolutionary theories are all for want of more information. This is a good thing. All parties involved should be working together for the answers. Instead, the scientific establishment resorts to name-calling and the ID/creation establishment attempts to box-in the "secular establishment." This is unfortunate.

I believe that the evolution scientists should continue their pursuits of macro-evolutionary possibilities and that the ID/creation establishment should continue their pursuit of an outside influence.

I believe that the bridge to one side working with the other will probably not be reached until both sides are willing to allow the possibility that the other could be correct.

I believe that the answer to this mystery is not a multiple choice question with only one potential answer and no "answer key" to know if it is correct.

I believe that knee-jerk responses to observations, ideas or lines of thought put out by either side against the other, is detrimental to the betterment of the argument.

I believe that posts by PartickHenry and other (sorry to the others that I can't recall off the top of my head, I just know that PH posts a lot and I enjoy his contributions, they are logical and he puts a lot of time into the advancement of his studies and I respect that) evolutionists are interesting, even thought I may not agree with them. I read them all for better understanding of the entire scope of what we are looking at.

I believe this it is my right to pursue either train of thought regardless of what other think, post back to me or attempt to convert me to.

I believe that if one is easily convinced into a way of belief based on one line, or entire dissertations posted of FR without outside due diligence their foundations are weak.

I believe that there will be plenty of responses to this post, and I look forward to reading them all. There will be interesting ones, one liners, probably name calling and some seriously logical ones. I know that I will read them all and reply to a few. But, the most important thing about them is that they will be posted and shared.

I believe that I have typed way too much now, and that I should begin my Saturday.

Lastly, I believe that Ultra Sonic 007 deserves a thank you for making this thread.

FReepgards,

K4

10 posted on 02/25/2006 10:25:08 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ( NOW my pug is REALLY on her war footing.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It's a matter of faith and I imagine everyone has a different take. We'll all find out soon enough.


12 posted on 02/25/2006 11:44:21 AM PST by Dutch14 (The last one out of the circus has to lock up everything...)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Atheist. Evolutionary theory is the best model that we have for explaining how species transformed from simpler to more complex forms over time.


15 posted on 02/25/2006 1:54:16 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Creation. And I believe God is still in the business of creating stuff.


18 posted on 02/25/2006 2:43:54 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I believe in the creative evolution of an intelligent design with a money back lifetime limited warranty.


21 posted on 02/25/2006 4:02:06 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Young Earth Creationist...with God doing the honors, of course.


23 posted on 02/25/2006 8:56:24 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Young Earth Creationist


24 posted on 02/26/2006 3:56:00 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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