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1 posted on 02/13/2006 10:11:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 02/13/2006 10:11:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Islam is medieval fascism, and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf.)
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"Radiocarbon dates from the Vogelherd caves, near Ulm ..."

Johann Gamblepudding...auf Ulm.


3 posted on 02/13/2006 10:17:07 PM PST by Buck W. (John Kerry: The Emir of Absurdistan.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not far from Ulm, in southern Germany, is the location of some of the best artifacts of the continental celtic civilization. Recreated villages.


8 posted on 02/13/2006 11:00:53 PM PST by truth_seeker
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"The right hand is holding something which is hanging downwards, probably a ritual object,"

I guess you would have to hold the rock at various angles in order to see the 'ritual object'. I can't say I saw anything other than an odd stick figure.

9 posted on 02/14/2006 12:25:16 AM PST by Dustbunny (The best sermons are lived, not preached)
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To: SunkenCiv
Stone Age artists are getting older

Aren't we all?

14 posted on 02/14/2006 7:27:47 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: SunkenCiv
"The right hand is holding something which is hanging downwards, probably a ritual object,"

Ever notice that whenever an archiologist doesn't know what some thing is he says "probably a ritual object" or some such. I bet the thing was a dildo. And I have as great a chance of being right as he does.

(Imagine further, centuries from now, when some future archiologist discovers "American Gothic" What kind of ritual will he describe the pitchfork as being used in?)

Another figure shows a four-legged animal seen from the side and "resembles the profile of a small statuette from Vogelherd"

Which proves that the artist(?) from Fumane travelled extensively and came home to record his voyages.

On second thought I change my identification of the object being held. I think it was really an auctioneer's hammer and the drawings record the sale of this guy's acquisitions from his trips. "Next up we have this lovely deer carving from Vogelherd. Do I hear a bid of five clams?"

(Silly I know but I get so tired of every thing being religious in nature. The poor stone aged people were apparently so busy performing religous rituals or making objects for religious rituals that they had no time to procure food and thusly they starved to death. Sometimes a stick is just a stick)

15 posted on 02/14/2006 8:10:01 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: SunkenCiv
Oh...I thought this was about the Rolling Stones...
17 posted on 02/14/2006 12:31:39 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: SunkenCiv

THe period 30 to 36,000 BP was somewhat warmer than most of the last ice age, so the proliferaton of man and leisure time for ritual and art would have been more likely. Then there were a series of reductions in temprature, at least 3 that occurred down to about 20,000 BP. I think I have identified one event as the eruption of Sakura-Jima in Japan which left a 15 mile in diameter Caldera. This occurred about 22,000.

Vesuvius had a plinian type eruption 25,000 BP, but I don't know the size of the caldera it left. If anyone has information on the date and size of other major pleistocene caldera forming events, I would like to know. I know about Toba, Yellowstone, and Long Valley.


20 posted on 02/16/2006 7:11:35 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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25 posted on 02/26/2006 9:00:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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