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Wrinkle_In_Time Tue Feb-21-06 05:19 AM Response to Reply #26 5. Their highest-producing person refers to the computer s/he uses as "new acquisitions" (complete with scare quotes) and makes allusions to said computers not belonging to him/her. Yeah, there's the spirit :sarcasm: While it would be gratifying if the DU Folding team were able to add more people and processing to the Folding cause than these people, this should not be done through immoral or unethical means. Contribute what you can. Don't steal from anyone else. It's for a good cause.

Ok Jerk. I know you people read our threads, so here is the answer. Don't make insinuations, or threats, or comments about things you know nothing about. I am the MIS director, Director of Technology, Network Administrator, and Head PC tech, for a division, that is responsible for over 6000 PC's/Laptops. I have personally signed the inventory for, and am responsible for, over 18 million dollars worth of equipment, and I watch over my domain, 24x7x365, and it's my job to make sure that they're all running, and operationsl, So yeah, I "own" them.

When I started folding, I personally checked with my boss, and got his permission to begin folding. The only caveats he had was, that folding would not "interfere" with any day-2-day operations of the network. I don't run the pc's 24x7, except for the servers, everyone is throttled back to 50-80% cpu utilization, and folding gets zapped, if there is the least bit of question, about an error or performance.

Don't even begin to quiz me about Ethics. Your own people have stated, that they would "love" for me to admit that I'm a progressive, and jump ship. Find your own honest IT guys, that are willing to work their day jobs, and then coax folding out of the PC's at night. Surely, in this vast wide world of progressives, there are a few, who are honest enough to approach their bosses, with the subject. Or is there?

Keep it up, and you'll piss me off enough, to take 3 weeks vacation, and put all 6000 online, folding for the freepers. And yes, my boss knows who, and what, his computers are folding for, and has no problem with it. He himself is an avid reader of Free Republic, and as long as there is no "commercial" advantage, gained by folding, as you well know, there isn't, he could care less how the credit is given. If he wanted to use the company name, then of course, he realizes, that I could bill him for all the extra hours, after hours, spent loading and tweaking the clients. Bottom line, folding costs him Zero, keeps his top IT guy happy, and he's a freeper fan.

I realize, that's sour grapes for y'all, but that's just the way things are. Get over it, and if you're serious about competition, find some guys in the business, and start recruiting. Talk to your own bosses. Of course, I realize, that your political stance, may be a stigma, in many cases, but surely, there are a few Liberal employers out there.

y'know, sometimes, I actually fell sorry for the more honest ones, over at DU. They have to put up with dweebs like this...

[quote]I have actually been contributing to the folding@home for years. The science appears to be valuable. I think that all distributive computing projects should be required make a CO2 emissions statement.

I did some CO2 calculations for SETI@Home. The projects are not at all related but the numbers will be similar.

SETI annual CO2 = 34k to 64k SUVs driving 15k miles

Seti@home claims 506,415 active computers.

1 kilowatt hour = 1 lb of CO2 (w/ natural gas plants)
Coal plants generate twice the CO2.

506,415 * 100 watts each = 50641 kilowatts

24 hours * 50,640 lbs = 607 tons of CO2 per day

221,802 tons of CO2 per year (w/ Natural gas)
443,619 tons of CO2 per year (w/ coal)

all SETI projects = 860,120 users
377k tons to 754k tons of CO2 per year

That is 34k to 68k large SUVs driving 15k miles
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/17634.shtml

Here is a table of annual per capita CO2 emissions:

Country Year CO2e Mt / Pop M = CO2e t/person
Australia 2001 553 / 20.09 = 27.53
Canada 2003 740.00 / 31.00 = 23.87
China 2004 3583.80 / 1306.30 = 2.74
European Union 1999 4030.00 / 375.30 = 10.74
India 2001 1228.54 / 1027.00 = 1.20
Japan 2002 1224.98 / 126.93 = 9.65
Netherlands 1999 174.10 / 19.80 = 8.79
Russia 1999 1880.00 / 145.60 = 12.91
United Kingdom 2003 656.00 / 59.60 = 11.01
USA 2003 6935.70 / 290.81 = 23.85

A hybrid car generates 4 tons of CO2 per 15K miles and an SUV generates about 12 tons of CO2 per 15K miles.[/quote]

Now, tell me, just what in the *ell, that proved, if anything? I think, the only reason why he's contributing to Seti@home, is maybe, someday, he'll find out who his real parents are?