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NFL should feel embarrassed
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/13808261.htm ^

Posted on 02/08/2006 3:54:24 PM PST by bikepacker67

SEATTLE - And now a word about the officiating in Super Bowl XL. Two words actually.

It stunk.

The interference call, a push-off on Darrell Jackson that cost the Seahawks a first-quarter touchdown, was hideous.

If former Dallas Cowboy Michael Irvin hadn't been allowed to use his arm to get separation the innocent way Jackson did in Sunday's loss to Pittsburgh, Irvin would have caught maybe 20 balls in his career.

And the fourth-quarter holding call on right tackle Sean Locklear that nullified a spectacular catch by tight end Jerramy Stevens at the Pittsburgh 1-yard line was equally egregious.

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To: bikepacker67

These Seattle fans sound like Gore 2000 supporters.


121 posted on 02/08/2006 5:41:34 PM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Texas jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: bikepacker67

Actually the sports shows have moved on, as should you.


122 posted on 02/08/2006 5:41:46 PM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: bikepacker67; fnord
Enjoy! The doctor says "whine" is good for you!


123 posted on 02/08/2006 5:42:51 PM PST by airborne
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To: bikepacker67

I've noticed that you won't give the entirity of what Jim Rome said, although you LOVE to claim that he's saying the refs gave the game to the Steelers (you're wrong and you know it but since it doesn't help you, you want to bring it up since HE brought it up)....


124 posted on 02/08/2006 5:43:12 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: bikepacker67

There's nothing to take seriosly. The things people are complaining about were the right call.


125 posted on 02/08/2006 5:44:11 PM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: discostu

well, I dont think I have ever seen it called ... if the same ref called it, it brings up the question of why he is working the SB?

maybe, the call against Hasselbeck is probably what is causing this national talkrage. it was so egregious that it gives the appearance of being blatant against one team, and then folks bring all the other questionable calls into play as supporting evidence. if that call hadnt been made we probably wouldnt have this uch continuing discussion about the game.


126 posted on 02/08/2006 5:45:15 PM PST by fnord (497 1/2 feet of rope ... I just carry it)
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To: CWOJackson

Doubt it. With the way sports are covered today the refs will ALWAYS be under the microscope in the big games.


127 posted on 02/08/2006 5:45:25 PM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: GretchenM
The interesting thing is the "officiating" was already in question during the playoffs. Kevin Hench FoxSports had an interesting article about three weeks ago regarding some of the questionable calls throughout the playoffs and ending with the Colts-Steelers game.

He ended his article with this: "It has me thinking, is this the year the Super Bowl is decided on a bad call?

128 posted on 02/08/2006 5:45:31 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: bikepacker67
66% of us think it was fixed.

You should get that 3rd voice in your head straightened out and make it 100%.....
129 posted on 02/08/2006 5:46:08 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: bikepacker67

No, it'll never be mentioned again after the next competition committee meeting.


130 posted on 02/08/2006 5:46:20 PM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: MikeinIraq

you have made the remark a few times now ... why don't you tell us the "entirety" of what Jim Rome said. not that he is an undisputed expert, but if he said something that can add to the discussion, why not tell us, hmm?


131 posted on 02/08/2006 5:47:09 PM PST by fnord (497 1/2 feet of rope ... I just carry it)
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To: bikepacker67

Here's the reality of why Seattle lost the game, again, which I'm sure you'll ignore, again:
Seattles first 3 possession went into Steeler territory, but two were stopped beyond FG range so they only got points on 1. Get another 1st down (note Seattle's terrible 5 for 17 3rd conversion rate) and get into FG range that's 6 points they get.
On two consecutive plays Seattle receivers caught almost garaunteed TDs out of bounds. There's another 7 points they missed.
I won't count the missed FG after the blown TD because had they caught the ball there'd have been no FG kick.
But then on the final possession of the 1st half they once again fell one converted 3rd down short of good FG range and missed it, there's another 3 points they missed.


132 posted on 02/08/2006 5:48:14 PM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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To: fnord

I can't quote it.

He said, effectively, that the calls were crap (he said crap today, he said questionable on Monday), but that the game wasn't decided by those calls. he went on to point out that Seattle's horrible clock management, missed FGs and getting burned on the reverse pass contributed more than the refs did.

Effectively.


133 posted on 02/08/2006 5:49:05 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: montag813

Why even play the game? Mike Holmgren and Bill Cowher should just have played Madden 2006 on the Playstation 2.


134 posted on 02/08/2006 5:51:04 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Moderates do not make history)
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To: bikepacker67
You can bet that Squeeler fans would be bytching like little girls if that Bettis fumble ended in a Divisional loss.

And stoop to your level? Please.

And ya know what??? I'd be on their side.

You'd be unwanted.

And that prissy asterisk you keep posting is the perfect depiction of the tiny splash made by every one of your delicious little tears.


135 posted on 02/08/2006 5:52:00 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MikeinIraq
NO the way Kyle Richardson punts, he would have shanked it and it would have gone out of bounds at the 8 or so :)

LOL.

It was after the Titans game, I was back in Columbus and actually had a chance to see the Titans game on TV. It was one of the last three games of the season because I had to pick Dawson up for my Fantasy team because I was in kicker hades and I needed that 3 FF points bad. To not even try the FG , aack. I mean at the 29 if you don't think the kicker can make it. Go for it. Odds are a punt will go in the end zone and the field position change is .. oooh.. 9 yards.

I'm just not sold on Romeo yet. I hope I'm wrong. But something about him just screams Art Shell to me. Even though Art had a 54-38 coaching record, he was 2-3 in the playoffs and I never thought he was that good as a Head Coach.

Again I hope I am very wrong.

136 posted on 02/08/2006 5:53:32 PM PST by A message
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To: MikeinIraq

I would agree with all of that.

Seattle dropped passes, had horrible time management, and failed to stop big plays.

all that said, they didnt deserve the treatment they got from the refs.

neither of these teams is great. but this could have been an exciting SB between 2 second-level teams, but the refs seemed to want otherwise.


137 posted on 02/08/2006 5:53:48 PM PST by fnord (497 1/2 feet of rope ... I just carry it)
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To: Carling
It must really stink for you to have to lose this all over again.

http://www.nfl.com/news/rulesdigest.html

Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Incidental contact by a defender's hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball, or neither player is looking for the ball. If there is any question whether contact is incidental, the ruling shall be no interference.
(b) Inadvertent tangling of feet when both players are playing the ball or neither player is playing the ball.
(c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the pass is clearly uncatchable by the involved players.
(d) Laying a hand on the receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball. (e) Contact by a defender who has gained position on a receiver in an attempt to catch the ball.

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.
(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.
(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

138 posted on 02/08/2006 5:54:06 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Carling
He is standing there with two arms on the receiver who then extends his right arm to get away from the D-back.

The Seahawk's arm is between the Steeler's hands, as can be seen in this picture.

What cannot be seen in this picture is that the Steeler's hands are too far apart to be gripping the receiver.

139 posted on 02/08/2006 5:54:42 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: A message

that's interesting...

although I would take Art Shell over Bubba Butch Davis at this point.....

I was at the Titans game and at the Baltimore game on New Year's.

The Titans game had a similar situation except he was kicking from around the 25. They went ahead and went for it as they had a 50 kt headwind.

My wife was saying that she wondered why the Edmund Fitzgerald hadn't docked yet up there :)


140 posted on 02/08/2006 5:55:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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