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9/11 ATTACKS Avoiding the hard questions
Miami Herald ^ | Feb. 01, 2006 | ROBERT STEINBACK

Posted on 02/01/2006 8:42:15 PM PST by Anthem

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To: Anthem

This author writes for Common Dreams, a commie web site. 'nuff said. It's crapola.


41 posted on 02/01/2006 9:02:36 PM PST by jdm (All Your Base, House, Senate, WH, Judicial Belong to Us)
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To: Anthem
• How did a fire fed by jet fuel, which at most burns at 1,700 degrees Fahrenheit, cause the collapse of the Twin Towers, built of steel that melts at 2,800 degrees? (Most experts agree that the impact of airliners, made mostly of lightweight aluminum, should not have been enough alone to cause structural failure.) How could a single planeload of burning jet fuel -- most of which flared off in the initial fireball -- cause the South World Trade Center tower to collapse in just 56 minutes?

Jet fuel burns at 2,200 degrees and it was not all destroyed in the fireball. The South Tower fell first because the impact of the United 767-200 was lower, (thus putting more weight on the damaged sections) hit at a much higher speed, and hit at an angle rather than head on like the American 767-200ER did the North Tower.

• Why did building WTC-7 fall, though no aircraft struck it? Fire alone had never before caused a steel skyscraper to collapse.

There was a show on the History Channel that explained this in great detail. IIRC, WTC-7 had a unique structural design due to the fact it was sitting atop a Con-Ed substation and all it took was for a few steel beams to become week and it went BOOM.

• Why did all three buildings collapse largely into their own footprints -- in the style of a controlled demolition?

Many large buildings are designed so that when the time come for them to be destroyed, they will fall into themselves.

• Why did no U.S. military jet intercept the wayward aircraft?

They tried. We don't have aircraft that are capable of hypersonic flight just yet. It takes time to fuel, arm, takeoff and fly to the target. Had Flight 93 not crashed, armed F-16's were on course to intercept and destroy it if necessary.

• Why has there been no investigation of BBC reports that five of the alleged 9/11 hijackers were alive and accounted for after the event?

Simply put, because the BBC is full of crap and you're full of crap for believing this dribble.

42 posted on 02/01/2006 9:02:58 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Despite Popular Opinion, Tom Tancredo Does Not Support Deporting Illegal Aliens.)
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To: Alberta's Child
-- The external lattice frame that was used in their construction was an innovative design element back then, and I suspect the buildings would have stood a much better chance of surviving the impact and fire if they were constructed with a standard internal column/beam frame.

That's the standard story. In Jones' work he shows the bearing capacity of the internal column structure. In fact the building structural design is more redundant than most other buildings.

43 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:15 PM PST by Anthem (One can not lie their way to the truth.)
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To: Anthem


This guy just more or less published the agenda of the 9/11 group we had a thread on, yesterday or the day before. It's rubbish.

They really hope to play to the ignorance of people. Not hot enough to melt steel... pffft. Doesn't need to melt.
44 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:16 PM PST by kenth
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To: Anthem
That's a long time to wait for a chance to evaluate the purported truth.
This train came off the tracks in the second paragraph; so successful have the charlatans in the conspiracy industry been in propagating a nearly complete ignorance of the well-known facts ...
45 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:44 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Howlin


I would guess that the weight of the collapsed buildings created craters.... piles of cement and steel.


46 posted on 02/01/2006 9:04:20 PM PST by onyx
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To: Anthem
Did you go to the website and look at the credentials of these "experts"?

A physicist, an economist, a professor of philosophy, a "conspiracist", and Wayne Madsen, who writes paranoid stuff for Daily Kos and prisonplanet.com. Madsen recently wrote an article stating that his "sources" in the Vatican told him that John Paul II thought George W. Bush might be the anti-Christ.

These people are much like the goofballs who thought a team of Arabs brought down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.

People of all stripes and education can be conspirazoids. They will not accept the "official" version of anything, no matter how well documented or researched, and no matter how many structural engineers say the same thing about how, for instance, a building can fall when a large aircraft filled with jet fuel damages the inner core.

Ignore these people. The last thing we need is to feed the nuttiness of somebody like Alex Jones.

47 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:11 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: nunya bidness
Someone who registered in '00 or '01 had the hell zotted out of them a few days ago. Some feminist thread.
48 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:15 PM PST by jdm (All Your Base, House, Senate, WH, Judicial Belong to Us)
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To: Howlin

But...but...what about the guy who "skiied" down the crumbling building as it fell? Or the back-pack guy? Or the back of the 20-dollar bill when folded?


49 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:19 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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To: jdm

I had to click the link just to make sure it wasn't from Common Dreams. The fact that it was published as a column in a major US newspaper speaks volumes about the propriety of the editors.


50 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:20 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: roses of sharon


LOL! I agree.
Conspiracy sells... books...lol.


51 posted on 02/01/2006 9:05:32 PM PST by onyx
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To: Anthem

Kennedy is no icon in my mind.

He used mobster ties to steal the election, was demonstrably favored for his television looks over intellectual substance (at least compared to Richard Nixon), caused the abandonment and massacre of hundreds of Cubans, the capture of American spies, started the Vietnam war, cheated on his wife - including at least one incident while hiding from commanders on fulltime nuclear alert.

In his infinite non-wisdom, he chose Lyndon Johnson as his successor - who escalated Vietnam with absurd constraints to assure our defeat. He created urban ghettos nationwide, passed the disasterous Immigration Act of 1965 (with the help of JFK's brother Senator Ted Kopechne).

Only Richard Nixon made real attempts to win Vietnam and finally get out.... But look how history is written, where a man like JFK wins respect even here.


52 posted on 02/01/2006 9:06:03 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Anthem

I thought a lot of JFK administration papers are being kept under lock and key for several more decades. More to learn from what went on inside the Kennedy White House than the Warren investigation or other "JFK assassination" papers.


53 posted on 02/01/2006 9:06:11 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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To: Anthem
We don't know what survived the collapse becuase it was hauled away under tight security.

Tell me again you're not a conspiracy nut, okay?

54 posted on 02/01/2006 9:06:18 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: nunya bidness

What do I care what his date is. Blaming the US for this. colapse is pure anti american crap. Maybe your both better off at DU.


55 posted on 02/01/2006 9:07:22 PM PST by Blackirish (No Tagline today)
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To: bnelson44
--And a thousand news cameras.

Where's the footage? If this report is so easily debunked, let's see the evidence.

56 posted on 02/01/2006 9:07:53 PM PST by Anthem (One can not lie their way to the truth.)
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To: Incorrigible

LOL!


57 posted on 02/01/2006 9:07:58 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Anthem
Read this.

Debunking

And get back with us.

58 posted on 02/01/2006 9:09:04 PM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: kenth


I love that! Saving it this time.


59 posted on 02/01/2006 9:09:17 PM PST by onyx
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To: dirtboy
I think it WAS good to expose the type of tripe that passes for news in a Floriduh daily paper.
60 posted on 02/01/2006 9:09:23 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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