9/11 ATTACKS Avoiding the hard questions

Miami Herald ^ | Feb. 01, 2006 | ROBERT STEINBACK

[kenth]

Happy now?

Ha! That's all the evidence some of these guys want to see.

[roses of sharon]

So do ya think Bush, Cheney, Bush Sr, Rumsfeld, and maybe more planned to kill thousands of Americans and destroy the US economy, after he was elected?

Or did they plan to kill thousands of Americans and destroy the US economy, before he was elected, and then planned a rigged election?

And then planned to go to Afghanistan, kill soldiers, civilians, and on the Iraq to kill more soldiers and civilians?

For Halliburton? Oil? Gas? Stocks? Drugs? Sex? Cash? To live in DC? Go to parties? Fly for free around the world? To feel macho? Because they like attention? Book deals?

What?

[Anthem]

--First, let's see this guy's evidence.

Go read the link I provided. It will take at least an hour, as there are video shorts to watch as well. Come back and convince me. I'm open to well reasoned arguments.

[onyx]

Robert Steinback, Miami Herald columnist.


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/robert_steinback/


Have a look at his "columns."

[_Jim]

It's my understanding that the fire might have not been as bad if the Towers had been built using asbestos.

I don't know that you would have bought all that much time in this case; the aircarft coming in laterlly literally 'blew off' and blew out a lot of material that would otherwise 'protect' the building/steel from the effects of fire. Much of the sheet rock used in lieu of other 'wall' materials blew out when the jet(s) hit.

[onyx]

It's Bush's doing fault; it was predicted by that $20 bill, and it's just now uncovered by Robert Steinback who also wrote that "Walmart's Health Keep People Sick."

[_Jim]

I wonder, why are the nutty sources you cite actively engaged in building design, or even in the analysis of currently proposed designs or structures, IF these guys are so danged insightful and gifted in building design and analysis ...

Underwriters and arcitects and contractors should be beating a PATH to their doors.

Are they?

[onyx]

Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner: Halliburton!

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

I'd like to thank you for being such a good sport, and hanging around to play the straight man for this absolute clinic on the debunking of moonbat conspiracy theories.

You're a peach, truly.

[nunya bidness]

I was here before you got here and I'll be here when you're gone. Deal with the article rather than hiding behind that zot crap and you'll be fine.

Otherwise, you can go to the third ring, fourth pit. Doofus.

[Anthem]

Re: The building structure.

The center core was a huge load bearing stuctural component. Why wasn't it left standing as the floor slabs pancaked (breaking their moorings -- a perpendicular attachment far more vulnerable to vertical moments of inertia than a vertical column would be)?

[Anthem]

--Angular momentum isn't enough to make a building that size fall sideways

No, it wouldn't make the whole building fall. It would have fallen off the building, leaving the rest of the building standing.

[kenth]

Is that an old 20?

I think so, but since the evil Bush oil cabal has taken all my money, I can't verify.

[Howlin]

No, it wouldn't make the whole building fall. It would have fallen off the building, leaving the rest of the building standing.

Good grief. Even I know the floors pancaked one on top of the other.

Parts of building don't just TIP off.

[Howlin]

LOL!

[Howlin]

I think he's pretty serious.

[CJ Wolf]

I read it and watched the vids. Bunk. I can melt steel in the backyard fire pit with wood. Try it sometime it's not that hard, it stays hot for a long time, sometimes I can go back the next day and kick the ashes and get the hotspots started again sometimes. Other things I have melted. Beer cans, glass, a plastic rake, the bottom of my shoes, potato chip bags, an old playstation black promo disk from Pizza hut and army men.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Go read the link I provided. It will take at least an hour, as there are video shorts to watch as well.

An hour? Waste an hour on a Made It Happen/Let It Happen infomercial?

Come back and convince me.

'sCuse me? I'd say it's your job to convince us

I'm open to well reasoned arguments.

Read the thread again. I can't believe we're wasting this much time with this. We must be bored.

[Anthem]

--I know far more about aviation than you ever will. Jet fuel burns at 2,200 degrees

If you pour jet fuel (again, a light kerosene) into a pan and light it, will it reach 2200^o? No, it won't. And you know it. Look, I don't have to know about aviation to understand this. I understand combustion engines. I have a steam turbine driven invention under development right now.

[_Jim]

The center core was a huge load bearing stuctural component. Why wasn't it left standing as the floor slabs pancaked

110 stories worth of vertical steel column standing by iteslf?

Vertical steel columns ONCE tied together via the floor 'joists' to the external load-bearing vertical steel columns?

I'd like to see the bending 'moment' at the base of those vetical beams; they would have to be built of 100% Unobtainium, which is at LEAST 1000 times stronger than diamond.