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Posted on 01/31/2006 7:17:45 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
I didn't say you were shoving homosexuality down my throat, I said Hollyweird was. We can play "this is what you meant when you posted this" all day long, but I really don't want to. Enjoy your stay at FR.
Homosexuals live in denial and want so terribly to be accepted so they can accept themselves. That's why everything about their behavior has to be normal, accepted, blessed, sanctioned, sanctified, encouraged and celebrated. And if it isn't there is something wrong with the beholder.
Kind of like an AA meeting where booze is served and anyone who objects is a tee-totaling, sanctimonious, prudish alco-phobe.
I would agree with you that by your definition no movie would escape being propaganda...however that is not what I'd consider an accurate definition. I would say a more accurate definition in relation to a movie would be one that presents information or ideas with the intention of changing the stance of others. Typically false or incomplete or inaccurately presented information is employed, although not in every case...there can be truthful propaganda, although this movie is not an example of truthful propaganda.
Of course it's propaganda, that's not the issue, the issue is..what is the message behind that propaganda? The author's point, and mine, is that perhaps that message isn't what everyone seems to think it is.
Not sure if you're qualified to speak for the author. I would point out that it's more than just what the message is behind the movie but the world view that such a message is rooted in. I'm not certain what message you believe the movie is intending to present, but it seems clear that one intent is to present a world in which adultery and homosexuality are acceptable. The movie presents false statements...for instance, that one can't help being homosexual. There are many ex-gays, but that fact is the type of thing that the world view behind the movie would rather not be known.
The author is precisely one of those that have been delivered from the sin of homosexuality (as you aptly point out in your reply)...
That is belied by the fact that the opposite is stated in the movie. Isn't the signature line in the film "I wish I knew how to quit you"? Does that sound like a statement of someone who has been delivered from homosexuality? Another example is even in the marketing of the film. The characters are continually referred to as cowboys when they are actually shepherds...guess gay shepherds doesn't sound macho enough...hence the cowboy references. Not sure how long you'll end up lasting on this board, but wish you best of luck...you seem reasonable enough, although incorrect regarding this movie.
I was referring to the author of the movie review that I posted, not the author of the movie. The movie might be presenting a different message, but what I said about the author's message seems to hold true upon reading over the article again. I have not seen the movie, but even if I accept your statement that the "it seems clear that one intent is to present a world in which adultery and homosexuality are acceptable. The movie presents false statements...for instance, that one can't help being homosexual. There are many ex-gays, but that fact is the type of thing that the world view behind the movie would rather not be known"...I don't think that the article I posted agrees with the movie.
The article's author is very candid about his own struggle with homosexuality and what he writes are his problems with the movie and the way it portrays the sin/problem/condition of homosexuality.
I appreciate your comments, but I think that you may have misread my post, because I wasn't commenting on the content of the movie so much as I was referring to the content of the article.
Hopefully I'll last longer than just this post, eh?
I finally saw "Brokeback Mountain" yesterday, just to see what everyone was talking about. It's not just a "gay" movie. It's a love story, period, but the homosexual angle makes the story so much more devastating because it means the two cowboys can never be together, an obstacle that wouldn't be there for a man and a woman. If you've ever lost someone you loved, it'll hit you right in the heart, whether you like it or not. I went in preparing to be grossed out. I came out thinking about an old girlfriend I've never gotten over, and remembering this quote from another old girlfriend: "I was in love once. It sucked."
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It just occurred to me while watching Jay Leno tonight, when he made a Brokeback Mountain joke (or as I call it, "Bareback Mountin' ")...
could this whole movie be a Hollywood / Lavender Mafia inside joke, an "I double-dog dare you" thing?
Remember Matthew Shepard?...Sheperd...Shepherd...Sheep Herders...and in Wyoming, of all places?
Could this be the homos' way of thumbing their...err, noses at middle America?
(Yeah, yeah, I know, tin-foil hat and all that. But why not, if it makes for a way to pass the time posting...?)
Cheers!
On a side note, did anyone else see the BM trailer shown during ABC PrimeTime. I guess it was meant to target the audience that watches programs about pedophiles.
Agreed. Overwhelmingly just a love story.
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